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Subject: Re: CM8000 still better than Fritz 6 or 7 No And Never Was!

Author: pavel

Date: 09:02:58 05/28/02

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>
>Hi TM
>I looked at the results of the computer tournament and immediately I noticed
>that the top dozen or so were running on AMD Athlon at 1.2GHz but CM and all the
>rest of the runner-ups were on 450MHz. This is unfair. Why does not someone run
>them at the same computer type and speed like I am doing? Perhaps they will get
>a surprise of their life.
>Sandi




10 Deep Fritz 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2652 23 -23 945 61% 2570

13 Gambit Tiger 2.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2640 30 -29 592 66% 2521
14 Fritz 7.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2631 45 -44 250 56% 2592
14 Junior 7.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2631 27 -26 739 67% 2507
16 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2630 28 -27 652 62% 2541
16 Shredder 6.0 UCI 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2630 65 -62 124 57% 2578
18 Fritz 6.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2623 23 -22 1014 63% 2529

20 Shredder 5.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2606 31 -30 545 62% 2521
21 Junior 6.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2588 18 -18 1483 58% 2533
22 Chess Tiger 12.0 DOS 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2587 22 -22 1021 55% 2551
23 Shredder 5.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2586 20 -20 1176 56% 2544
24 Rebel Century 4.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2571 59 -61 138 44% 2612
25 Shredder 4.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2568 23 -22 986 58% 2508
26 Nimzo 8.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2554 24 -24 846 53% 2536
27 Fritz 5.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2553 24 -23 890 55% 2514
28 Nimzo 7.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2551 21 -21 1070 54% 2520
29 Junior 5.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2537 22 -22 996 52% 2520
30 Gandalf 5.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2532 73 -68 102 60% 2458
31 Gandalf 4.32f 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2531 28 -28 627 51% 2524
32 Hiarcs 7.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2527 21 -21 1131 47% 2546
33 Hiarcs 7.01 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2521 30 -31 525 43% 2573
34 SOS 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2520 19 -19 1307 47% 2539
35 Gandalf 4.32h 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2518 36 -36 378 53% 2498
36 Rebel Century 3.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2517 30 -30 546 49% 2523
37 Chessmaster 8000 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2516 44 -45 251 45% 2549
38 Goliath Light 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2507 24 -24 857 42% 2565
39 Crafty 17.07/CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2490 23 -23 912 47% 2513
40 Nimzo 99 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2485 22 -22 996 44% 2528
41 MChess Pro 8.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2478 25 -26 753 40% 2549
42 Genius 6.5 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2474 29 -29 565 48% 2487
43 Crafty 18.12/CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2472 35 -37 384 41% 2539


the point is, at that level with that hardware, chessmaster is no where around
the best is deepfritz which is rated 2652 and chesmaster is rated 2516

thats more than a 100 elo differance, though you can argue that not enough games
where played, but how many did you play?

I know CM8000 is good and all that, but it certainly is not at the same level as
far as strength is concerned (IMO).

There is like 25 more engines above CM8000 in SSDF list.

pavs



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