Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 10:01:37 05/28/02
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On May 28, 2002 at 12:37:28, Sandi Ordinario wrote: >On May 28, 2002 at 12:02:58, pavel wrote: > >> >>> >>>Hi TM >>>I looked at the results of the computer tournament and immediately I noticed >>>that the top dozen or so were running on AMD Athlon at 1.2GHz but CM and all the >>>rest of the runner-ups were on 450MHz. This is unfair. Why does not someone run >>>them at the same computer type and speed like I am doing? Perhaps they will get >>>a surprise of their life. >>>Sandi >> >> >> >> >>10 Deep Fritz 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2652 23 -23 945 61% 2570 >> >>13 Gambit Tiger 2.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2640 30 -29 592 66% 2521 >>14 Fritz 7.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2631 45 -44 250 56% 2592 >>14 Junior 7.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2631 27 -26 739 67% 2507 >>16 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2630 28 -27 652 62% 2541 >>16 Shredder 6.0 UCI 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2630 65 -62 124 57% 2578 >>18 Fritz 6.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2623 23 -22 1014 63% 2529 >> >>20 Shredder 5.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2606 31 -30 545 62% 2521 >>21 Junior 6.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2588 18 -18 1483 58% 2533 >>22 Chess Tiger 12.0 DOS 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2587 22 -22 1021 55% 2551 >>23 Shredder 5.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2586 20 -20 1176 56% 2544 >>24 Rebel Century 4.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2571 59 -61 138 44% 2612 >>25 Shredder 4.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2568 23 -22 986 58% 2508 >>26 Nimzo 8.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2554 24 -24 846 53% 2536 >>27 Fritz 5.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2553 24 -23 890 55% 2514 >>28 Nimzo 7.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2551 21 -21 1070 54% 2520 >>29 Junior 5.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2537 22 -22 996 52% 2520 >>30 Gandalf 5.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2532 73 -68 102 60% 2458 >>31 Gandalf 4.32f 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2531 28 -28 627 51% 2524 >>32 Hiarcs 7.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2527 21 -21 1131 47% 2546 >>33 Hiarcs 7.01 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2521 30 -31 525 43% 2573 >>34 SOS 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2520 19 -19 1307 47% 2539 >>35 Gandalf 4.32h 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2518 36 -36 378 53% 2498 >>36 Rebel Century 3.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2517 30 -30 546 49% 2523 >>37 Chessmaster 8000 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2516 44 -45 251 45% 2549 >>38 Goliath Light 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2507 24 -24 857 42% 2565 >>39 Crafty 17.07/CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2490 23 -23 912 47% 2513 >>40 Nimzo 99 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2485 22 -22 996 44% 2528 >>41 MChess Pro 8.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2478 25 -26 753 40% 2549 >>42 Genius 6.5 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2474 29 -29 565 48% 2487 >>43 Crafty 18.12/CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2472 35 -37 384 41% 2539 >> >> >>the point is, at that level with that hardware, chessmaster is no where around >>the best is deepfritz which is rated 2652 and chesmaster is rated 2516 >> >>thats more than a 100 elo differance, though you can argue that not enough games >>where played, but how many did you play? >> >>I know CM8000 is good and all that, but it certainly is not at the same level as >>far as strength is concerned (IMO). >> >>There is like 25 more engines above CM8000 in SSDF list. >> >>pavs > >Hi Pavel! >I played about ten games as I have explained to Mustafa and only on one occasion >did Fritz draw CM8000. I was running it on 1.5GHz Pentium 4 as White while >CM8000 was black on a 0.9GHz Pentium 3. I hope someone could explain this better >to me or at least have me specifically change parameters for Fritz6 so that it >could win even if I run it on the Pentium 3 against other software except >perhaps the newer versions. > >I see your logic but have you tried running the CM8000 on the 1.2GHz speed and >compared it to both the winners and the runner-ups. What you say is just one >side of the story. We should scientifically examine the whole range of computer >speeds. >Sandi No, relative hardware will give relative results. Do you think CM8K magically performs better on the a 1.2Ghz machine, relative to it's peers? There is only a speed up of approx. 3x on the 1.2 Ghz. The ratings you see correspond accordingly. That's not "Scientific" and I don't know exactly what you're doing, but regardless of that your sample size is also far to small. Terry
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