Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 10:47:43 05/28/02
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On May 28, 2002 at 13:33:47, Wayne Lowrance wrote: >On May 28, 2002 at 12:54:47, Sandi Ordinario wrote: > >>On May 28, 2002 at 12:52:40, Sandi Ordinario wrote: >> >>>On May 28, 2002 at 12:50:30, Terry McCracken wrote: >>> >>>>On May 28, 2002 at 12:00:56, Sandi Ordinario wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 28, 2002 at 11:53:55, Jorge wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 28, 2002 at 11:00:51, Sandi Ordinario wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 28, 2002 at 09:45:17, Terry McCracken wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On May 28, 2002 at 09:19:30, Sandi Ordinario wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hi Mustafa et al, >>>>>>>>>Last week I wrote about CM on Pentium 3 beating Fritz on Pentium 4 whether >>>>>>>>>playing White or Black. I optimized Book options, reduced Hash to 2MB and turned >>>>>>>>>off all options except notation for Fritz. Both software was on 10 sec/move. If >>>>>>>>>I swapped them on the computers, CM8K run on Pentium 4 would beat Fritz on less >>>>>>>>>than 40 moves very brilliantly (sacrifices and all). I don't know what to do. I >>>>>>>>>hope it is not all hype for Fritz. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Then I tried 20sec/move same settings but I raised Fritz's Hash to 4MB on the >>>>>>>>>Pentium 4 as white. It was able to draw for the first time CM8000 after 80 >>>>>>>>>moves. Perhaps Fritz is better with more thinking time, that is with higher Hash >>>>>>>>>setting. What do you think? I think you're trolling! >>>>>>>>>Sandi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://w1.859.telia.com/%7Eu85924109/ssdf/list.htm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>TM >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi TM >>>>>>>I looked at the results of the computer tournament and immediately I noticed >>>>>>>that the top dozen or so were running on AMD Athlon at 1.2GHz but CM and all the >>>>>>>rest of the runner-ups were on 450MHz. This is unfair. Why does not someone run >>>>>>>them at the same computer type and speed like I am doing? Perhaps they will get >>>>>>>a surprise of their life. >>>>>>>Sandi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I agree! If this is the case, other variables should be the same or at least as >>>>>>close as the same as possible. >>>>>> >>>>>>regards, >>>>>>jorge >>>>> >>>>>Hi Jorge! >>>>>I am glad you agree with my observations. Perhaps computer software performance >>>>>should be better regulated. Thanks for your view. >>>>>Sandi >>>> >>>>To both of you, SSDF does a Great Job, now look at the list with the top >>>>software running on K6-2 450Mgh 128MB RAM hardware. It is a fair and well >>>>regulated. >>>> >>>> >>>>10 Deep Fritz 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2652 23 -23 945 61% 2570 >>>>11 Gandalf 5.1 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2646 29 -28 595 57% 2594 >>>>12 Gandalf 5.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2642 49 -50 202 46% 2673 >>>>13 Gambit Tiger 2.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2640 30 -29 592 66% 2521 >>>>14 Fritz 7.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2631 45 -44 250 56% 2592 >>>>14 Junior 7.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2631 27 -26 739 67% 2507 >>>>16 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2630 28 -27 652 62% 2541 >>>>16 Shredder 6.0 UCI 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2630 65 -62 124 57% 2578 >>>>18 Fritz 6.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2623 23 -22 1014 63% 2529 >>>>19 Crafty 18.12/CB 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2617 31 -30 519 53% 2595 >>>>20 Shredder 5.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2606 31 -30 545 62% 2521 >>>>21 Junior 6.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2588 18 -18 1483 58% 2533 >>>>22 Chess Tiger 12.0 DOS 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2587 22 -22 1021 55% 2551 >>>>23 Shredder 5.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2586 20 -20 1176 56% 2544 >>>>24 Rebel Century 4.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2571 59 -61 138 44% 2612 >>>>25 Shredder 4.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2568 23 -22 986 58% 2508 >>>>26 Nimzo 8.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2554 24 -24 846 53% 2536 >>>>27 Fritz 5.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2553 24 -23 890 55% 2514 >>>>28 Nimzo 7.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2551 21 -21 1070 54% 2520 >>>>29 Junior 5.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2537 22 -22 996 52% 2520 >>>>30 Gandalf 5.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2532 73 -68 102 60% 2458 >>>>31 Gandalf 4.32f 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2531 28 -28 627 51% 2524 >>>>32 Hiarcs 7.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2527 21 -21 1131 47% 2546 >>>>33 Hiarcs 7.01 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2521 30 -31 525 43% 2573 >>>>34 SOS 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2520 19 -19 1307 47% 2539 >>>>35 Gandalf 4.32h 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2518 36 -36 378 53% 2498 >>>>36 Rebel Century 3.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2517 30 -30 546 49% 2523 >>>>37 Chessmaster 8000 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2516 44 -45 251 45% 2549 >>>> >>>> >>>>http://w1.859.telia.com/%7Eu85924109/ssdf/list.htm >>>> >>>> >>>>Terry >> >>Please refer to my message to Pavel. One end of the spectrum does not provide a >>good conclusion for anyone. CM8000 should be run on the same hardware as the >>winner and compared with the rest. This should be more statistically significant >>unless I'm off my rocker! >>Sandi > >Listen to what there saying. >Wayne Who them or me? I did, and the evidence ways highly for Frit7 not CM8K. I suggest following the tournaments posted here as well...CM8K got it's @ss kicked by F7 ver. 7.0.0.6, or were you not paying attention? Also the SSDF bases their work on statistical numbers that _are_ significant. Have a problem, write them! Terry
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