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Subject: Re: Problem searching too deep!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 15:04:15 05/28/02

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On May 28, 2002 at 16:54:31, Uri Blass wrote:

>On May 28, 2002 at 16:42:19, Sune Fischer wrote:
>
>>On May 28, 2002 at 16:35:33, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>>
>>>On May 28, 2002 at 16:14:14, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>If you do not have a condition of no repetition I can easily break that record.
>>>>
>>>>5b1k/4p1p1/4PpP1/5P2/2p5/1pPp4/1P1P4/rKB5 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Nice position. Before I tried to understand it, I tried it out (after
>>>recompiling Yace with a maxdepth of 1024). After no time, the depth was reached.
>>>But the maximum length of the line was only 4 plies. Another challenge would be,
>>>a position which triggers a really long line, that chess engines look at.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Dieter
>>
>>Why do people search a position with 1 legal move?
>>Frenzee moves instantly on this one, search not even initiated.
>>
>>-S.
>
>The reason is Robert Hyatt's post.
>
>He talked about 32 consecutive only replies.


This won't break crafty at all.  It searches exactly 4 plies deep (to get
a move to ponder that is sort of reliable) and then moves.  It will _never_
search beyond 4 plies here unless it is pondering.   There it will bottom
out at 60 plies almost instantly



         nss  depth   time  score   variation (1)
                1     0.00  -0.80   1. Kxa1
                1->   0.00  -0.80   1. Kxa1
                2     0.00  -0.90   1. Kxa1 Kg8
                2->   0.00  -0.90   1. Kxa1 Kg8
                3     0.00  -0.80   1. Kxa1 Kg8 2. Kb1
                3->   0.00  -0.80   1. Kxa1 Kg8 2. Kb1
                4     0.00  -0.70   1. Kxa1 Kg8 2. Kb1 Kh8
                4->   0.00  -0.70   1. Kxa1 Kg8 2. Kb1 Kh8
              time=0.00  cpu=100%  mat=-5  n=22  fh=100%  nps=10k
              ext-> chk=0 cap=0 pp=0 1rep=0 mate=0
              predicted=0  nodes=22  evals=7
              endgame tablebase-> probes done=0  successful=0
              SMP->  split=0  stop=0  data=0/64  cpu=0.01  elap=0.00


pondering:  (note, to do this I played Kxa1 and crafty instantly played Kg8.
It then pondered my playing Kg1 and searched.  This is the result.




               55     0.01   0.00   2. ... Kh8 3. Ka1 Kg8
               55->   0.01   0.00   2. ... Kh8 3. Ka1 Kg8
               56     0.01   0.00   2. ... Kh8 3. Ka1 Kg8
               56->   0.01   0.00   2. ... Kh8 3. Ka1 Kg8
               57     0.01   0.00   2. ... Kh8 3. Ka1 Kg8
               57->   0.01   0.00   2. ... Kh8 3. Ka1 Kg8
               58     0.01   0.00   2. ... Kh8 3. Ka1 Kg8
               58->   0.01   0.00   2. ... Kh8 3. Ka1 Kg8
               59     0.01   0.00   2. ... Kh8 3. Ka1 Kg8
               59->   0.01   0.00   2. ... Kh8 3. Ka1 Kg8
               60     0.01   0.00   2. ... Kh8 3. Ka1 Kg8
               60->   0.01   0.00   2. ... Kh8 3. Ka1 Kg8
              time=0.01  cpu=0%  mat=0  n=351  fh=100%  nps=10k


>
>Here is a position with more than one legal move if I need to start from a
>position with more than one legal move.
>
>[D]r4b1k/4p1p1/4PpP1/5P2/2p5/1pPp4/1P1P4/QKB5 b - - 0 1
>
>Uri



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