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Subject: Re: Chess for mobile phone

Author: Keith Evans

Date: 15:28:53 05/29/02

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On May 29, 2002 at 13:29:47, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On May 29, 2002 at 04:28:15, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On May 29, 2002 at 00:05:38, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On May 28, 2002 at 21:22:17, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 28, 2002 at 14:19:44, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 28, 2002 at 03:29:48, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 27, 2002 at 23:41:17, Vine Smith wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 27, 2002 at 22:45:13, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On May 27, 2002 at 12:57:09, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On May 27, 2002 at 04:55:38, Grzegorz Sidorowicz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On webpage http://sq2foa.republika.pl/
>>>>>>>>>>is available Polish open source chess
>>>>>>>>>>program for mobile phone by Radoslaw Kamowski.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Very attractive. But there must be limits.
>>>>>>>>>Chess isn't meant for looking at and making a quick decision. It's meant for
>>>>>>>>>hard work and analysis. And it's also not such a good idea to encourage
>>>>>>>>>prolonged contact with radiation of cellphones-Cell=US, Mobile=UK
>>>>>>>>>Pelefon=Israel.
>>>>>>>>>S.Taylor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What radiations?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What the hell are you talking about???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Perhaps you haven't heard this myth (well, let's hope it's a myth) that used to
>>>>>>>circulate when cell phones first became popular -- it was feared (by those who
>>>>>>>like to fear such things) that the electromagnetic field produced by the cell
>>>>>>>phone could cause brain tumors due to the phone being held to the ear, proximal
>>>>>>>to the brain, for long periods. Presumably, the message warns us of a similar
>>>>>>>hazard from playing too many games of cell phone chess -- thumb cancer, warts,
>>>>>>>or maybe even severe fingernail discoloration.
>>>>>>>So when can we expect Nokia Tiger to become available?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>Vine Smith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Show me a scientific paper, or unbiassed article saying it's only a myth!
>>>>>>And not only when held to the ear, which is of course much stronger, when
>>>>>>speaking, but even when just on stand-by is not the greatest idea to keep in
>>>>>>close proximaty to the body all day long.
>>>>>> I could also say personally that if someone were to put ten different handsets
>>>>>>to my ear, 5 mobiles and 5 normal phones one after each other, randomly, whilst
>>>>>>I'm blindfolded, and when they are connected to another person (but without
>>>>>>sound, so I can't hear the difference in clarity of reception), I could easily
>>>>>>tell which are the Mobiles, and which not.
>>>>>> Also, test these phones with a radiation detector (used for testing microwave
>>>>>>ovens). Then you will easily see there is radiation. What myth???
>>>>>>S.Taylor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Then you are the only human in the whole universe able to do that.
>>>>>
>>>>>Other people have made the same claim, and it has been demonstrated
>>>>>experimentaly that they were *not* able to make the difference between a real
>>>>>emitting cellphone and a placebo.
>>>>>
>>>>>You might enter the guiness book of records if you are really able to do it.
>>>>>
>>>>>BTW you should also stay away from computers then. They are also emitting a
>>>>>significant level of electromagnetic energy (but it is more dispersed in the
>>>>>radio spectrum).
>>>>>
>>>>>A Palm is safe, though.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>
>>>>I realize that most can't, but many people report a bit of an earache, or
>>>>atleast a headache. For me it is very pronounced though.
>>>> Computers, are not as concentrated. They don't affect my radiation tester
>>>>either (which tests microwave ovens), and besides, I don't know of any form of
>>>>radiation when using an LCD screen (which I don't, but want to).
>>>>S.Taylor
>>>
>>>
>>>As I said you are not the only one to have made this claim, but experiments have
>>>shown that people were not actually able to know if it was a cellphone near
>>>their ear or a normal one.
>>>
>>>Not to deny that there might be some adverse effect in the long run. I don't
>>>think there is but no data so far is able to prove it (or to prove the opposite
>>>BTW).
>>>
>>>I use a hands free kit whenever I can, that's more than enough to protect
>>>against any effect, real or not.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>I'm sorry to hear that experiments failed. Maybe not everyone who claims it can
>>pass the test.
>>Hands free, "more than enough", Maybe it's more than enough effort! I didn't
>>find it very easy with any hands free kit, while traveling holding many other
>>things, and the person on the other end saying he can't hear well etc. And many
>>units don't even reach the mouth, for some obscure reason!
>> And if it were really more than enough, it would be well worth it. I believe it
>>helps in not bombarding the head when talking.
>>S.Taylor
>
>
>There are many models of handsfree kits, and it is true that some of them are
>not convenient to use and even fragile (I break them all the time and buy one
>every three months in average).
>
>But it's worth the trouble if you have any fear about effect of a cellphone on
>your health, as it allows you to hold the phone far away from your brain (my
>Nokia 8210 is clipped on my belt all the time).
>
>
>
>    Christophe

Well I'm not sure what type of handsfree kit you use, but it might actually make
things worse. If it consists of a long piece of wire and an earpiece that you
place inside your ear, then it could possibly act as an antenna and give you an
even bigger dosage. Especially since the earpiece is actually placed inside your
ear. If you're using the kit because of radiation fears and not just for
convenience, then you should probably look into this.

I only use my cellphone for emergencies. Not because of radiation fears, just
because I hate cellphones. The poor audio quality gives me a headache - I don't
think it's the radiation ;-)

Keith



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