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Subject: Re: fritz5:Junior5 5.5:4.5 after the first 10 games of the nunn match

Author: Mark Young

Date: 07:51:06 07/29/98

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On July 29, 1998 at 10:38:52, blass uri wrote:

>
>On July 29, 1998 at 10:14:09, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On July 29, 1998 at 04:16:08, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>I began to do a nunn match with 30 minutes per game+30 seconds per move
>>>and Fritz5 has better results than with 10 minutes per game+10 seconds per
>>>move(in that match after 10 games the result was 7.5:2.5 for Junior5 and now the
>>>result is 5.5:4.5 for fritz5).
>>>I gave both programs 59968 Kbytes hash tables
>>>in the 30 minutes+30 seconds match when I gave both programs almost 12000 Kbytes
>>>hash tables in the 10 minutes+10 seconds match.
>>>.
>>>
>>>Fritz5 has a weakness in seeing the position
>>>
>>>It is the reason it lost to stobor in the World micro computer championship.
>>>It traded queens and only after it did it it saw stobor's position is better and
>>>it is not a question of time(even if I give fritz5 30 minutes it will do the
>>>same mistake).
>>>
>>>Something like this cannot happen to Junior.
>>>This is the reason I expected Junior to earn more from time than fritz
>>>but it did not happen.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>I have found the same thing with fritz 5. When people say it plays weak moves I
>>have to wonder if they were playing it at 5 sec. a move. I found that fritz 5
>>gains rapidly in strength as it has more time. Much more so then other programs.
>>Except for maybe CM 5500 or 5000.
>The weak move it played against stobor in the WMCCC was not at 5 sec a move and
>the reason for the mistake is that fritz5's evaluation function is sensitive to
>the root position.
>This is a bug in fritz5 because it can be not sensitive to the root position in
>the nodes that are near the root.
>I think the reason Fritz5 gains more than other programs from time is that it
>has other advantages (for example better positional understanding)
>
SShhh.. Don't say that to loud. Its a secret. I don't want Mr.Czub to find out.


>Did you do tests with fritz5 against other top programs(except Junior)?.
>
Yes but not near as many. I can let junior and Fritz 5 play auto.
>
>Uri



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