Author: stuart taylor
Date: 18:01:26 05/29/02
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On May 29, 2002 at 18:28:53, Keith Evans wrote: >On May 29, 2002 at 13:29:47, Christophe Theron wrote: > >>On May 29, 2002 at 04:28:15, stuart taylor wrote: >> >>>On May 29, 2002 at 00:05:38, Christophe Theron wrote: >>> >>>>On May 28, 2002 at 21:22:17, stuart taylor wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 28, 2002 at 14:19:44, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 28, 2002 at 03:29:48, stuart taylor wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 27, 2002 at 23:41:17, Vine Smith wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On May 27, 2002 at 22:45:13, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On May 27, 2002 at 12:57:09, stuart taylor wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On May 27, 2002 at 04:55:38, Grzegorz Sidorowicz wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>On webpage http://sq2foa.republika.pl/ >>>>>>>>>>>is available Polish open source chess >>>>>>>>>>>program for mobile phone by Radoslaw Kamowski. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Very attractive. But there must be limits. >>>>>>>>>>Chess isn't meant for looking at and making a quick decision. It's meant for >>>>>>>>>>hard work and analysis. And it's also not such a good idea to encourage >>>>>>>>>>prolonged contact with radiation of cellphones-Cell=US, Mobile=UK >>>>>>>>>>Pelefon=Israel. >>>>>>>>>>S.Taylor >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>What radiations? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>What the hell are you talking about??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Christophe >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Perhaps you haven't heard this myth (well, let's hope it's a myth) that used to >>>>>>>>circulate when cell phones first became popular -- it was feared (by those who >>>>>>>>like to fear such things) that the electromagnetic field produced by the cell >>>>>>>>phone could cause brain tumors due to the phone being held to the ear, proximal >>>>>>>>to the brain, for long periods. Presumably, the message warns us of a similar >>>>>>>>hazard from playing too many games of cell phone chess -- thumb cancer, warts, >>>>>>>>or maybe even severe fingernail discoloration. >>>>>>>>So when can we expect Nokia Tiger to become available? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>>>Vine Smith >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Show me a scientific paper, or unbiassed article saying it's only a myth! >>>>>>>And not only when held to the ear, which is of course much stronger, when >>>>>>>speaking, but even when just on stand-by is not the greatest idea to keep in >>>>>>>close proximaty to the body all day long. >>>>>>> I could also say personally that if someone were to put ten different handsets >>>>>>>to my ear, 5 mobiles and 5 normal phones one after each other, randomly, whilst >>>>>>>I'm blindfolded, and when they are connected to another person (but without >>>>>>>sound, so I can't hear the difference in clarity of reception), I could easily >>>>>>>tell which are the Mobiles, and which not. >>>>>>> Also, test these phones with a radiation detector (used for testing microwave >>>>>>>ovens). Then you will easily see there is radiation. What myth??? >>>>>>>S.Taylor >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Then you are the only human in the whole universe able to do that. >>>>>> >>>>>>Other people have made the same claim, and it has been demonstrated >>>>>>experimentaly that they were *not* able to make the difference between a real >>>>>>emitting cellphone and a placebo. >>>>>> >>>>>>You might enter the guiness book of records if you are really able to do it. >>>>>> >>>>>>BTW you should also stay away from computers then. They are also emitting a >>>>>>significant level of electromagnetic energy (but it is more dispersed in the >>>>>>radio spectrum). >>>>>> >>>>>>A Palm is safe, though. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Christophe >>>>> >>>>>I realize that most can't, but many people report a bit of an earache, or >>>>>atleast a headache. For me it is very pronounced though. >>>>> Computers, are not as concentrated. They don't affect my radiation tester >>>>>either (which tests microwave ovens), and besides, I don't know of any form of >>>>>radiation when using an LCD screen (which I don't, but want to). >>>>>S.Taylor >>>> >>>> >>>>As I said you are not the only one to have made this claim, but experiments have >>>>shown that people were not actually able to know if it was a cellphone near >>>>their ear or a normal one. >>>> >>>>Not to deny that there might be some adverse effect in the long run. I don't >>>>think there is but no data so far is able to prove it (or to prove the opposite >>>>BTW). >>>> >>>>I use a hands free kit whenever I can, that's more than enough to protect >>>>against any effect, real or not. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Christophe >>> >>>I'm sorry to hear that experiments failed. Maybe not everyone who claims it can >>>pass the test. >>>Hands free, "more than enough", Maybe it's more than enough effort! I didn't >>>find it very easy with any hands free kit, while traveling holding many other >>>things, and the person on the other end saying he can't hear well etc. And many >>>units don't even reach the mouth, for some obscure reason! >>> And if it were really more than enough, it would be well worth it. I believe it >>>helps in not bombarding the head when talking. >>>S.Taylor >> >> >>There are many models of handsfree kits, and it is true that some of them are >>not convenient to use and even fragile (I break them all the time and buy one >>every three months in average). >> >>But it's worth the trouble if you have any fear about effect of a cellphone on >>your health, as it allows you to hold the phone far away from your brain (my >>Nokia 8210 is clipped on my belt all the time). >> >> >> >> Christophe > >Well I'm not sure what type of handsfree kit you use, but it might actually make >things worse. If it consists of a long piece of wire and an earpiece that you >place inside your ear, then it could possibly act as an antenna and give you an >even bigger dosage. Especially since the earpiece is actually placed inside your >ear. If you're using the kit because of radiation fears and not just for >convenience, then you should probably look into this. I heard that Plantronics is perfect (against that fear), but on the other hand I saw a recent ad boasting of a new, innovative headset which significantly reduces radiation. Presumably it means even better than Plantronics. That really put me off from the whole idea of headsets, or anything! S.Taylor
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