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Subject: Re: Kasparov vs Deep Blue (OT)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 17:21:25 05/30/02

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On May 30, 2002 at 20:19:41, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On May 30, 2002 at 16:58:50, pavel wrote:
>
>>On May 30, 2002 at 15:50:36, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On May 30, 2002 at 14:56:10, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 30, 2002 at 13:34:25, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 30, 2002 at 13:19:45, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 30, 2002 at 13:15:59, Jerry Jones wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Does anybody know what the highest official ELO rating according to FIDE is that
>>>>>>>was ever attained by a human, Kasparov that is.
>>>>>>>Is it possible that a few years ago his rating was a few points higher ?
>>>>>>>If Kasparov had declined to play Deep Blue, would this have influenced his
>>>>>>>rating ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You can add one million points to his ELO rating if you like.  Or subtract them.
>>>>>> Just be sure to do it to everyone else and it is perfectly valid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ELO figures are only valuable as differences within a pool of players who have
>>>>>>had many competitions against each other.  The absolute numbers mean absolutely
>>>>>>nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>This is a continual problem.  :)  32 degrees F means one thing.  32 degrees C
>>>>>means another thing.  32 degrees K means another thing.  No way to compare
>>>>>today's 2850 rating to the ratings of players 40 years ago.
>>>>
>>>>That is very true, and although I hate to use the Chess "F" Word, IMO
>>>>"Fischer's" 2780 (FIDE) rating had more weight than _any_ 2800+ rating achieved
>>>>in the 1990's.
>>>>
>>>>No one came close to that figure back in 1972. There is no way to compare these
>>>>ratings to contemporary players but obviously back in '72, 2780 was amazing,
>>>>considering the relative ratings of that era.
>>>>
>>>>Terry
>>>
>>>
>>>I would agree, with the caveat that Kasparov's 2850 is also pretty
>>>amazing for a "number".  I wouldn't begin to try to debate the
>>>virtues of Fischer's 2780 vs Kasparov's 2850 however...  Since they never
>>>really played in the same rating pool enough to make it interesting.
>>
>>Did Kasparov ever play Fischer?
>>I never saw any game (from my pgn database) between them.
>>
>>would be interesting, if someone could point me up to some of the games played
>>between them.
>>
>>
>>pavs
>
>
>No.  They did have Karpov as a common opponent.  But Karpov was in his prime
>with fischer active.  Kasparov did poorly against Karpov the first time or
>two, but it appeared that age became the equalizer.  Fischer didn't have that
>advantage...


I worded that poorly.  I don't think Fischer played Karpov.  But Spassky and
Karpov played and Fischer certainly played him plenty of games to "connect his
rating to Karpov loosely"...



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