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Subject: Re: HLCC - 3 || Fritz 7 vs Hiarcs 8 || Game -5 (PGN) ||

Author: pavel

Date: 18:45:49 05/31/02

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On May 31, 2002 at 21:24:48, Ron Langeveld wrote:

>On May 31, 2002 at 18:41:41, pavel wrote:
>
>>On May 31, 2002 at 18:27:58, Ron Langeveld wrote:
>>
>>>On May 31, 2002 at 06:50:56, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>>For me, the experiment is over. Hiarcs does not look especially great at higher
>>>>time controls. Even if it would win a match like this (although it is looking a
>>>>bit doubtful) it is clear that it does not excell at this time allowance.
>>>> Maybe at an hour per move it would, but the indications for that are also
>>>>nothing special, as this is not showing any movement in that direction either.
>>>>
>>>>So, in spite  of the one or two brilliances which Hiarcs 8.0 might be capable
>>>>of, as written about in Uniaks article, I don't know if I want to buy it for
>>>>that alone.
>>>>S.Taylor
>>>
>>>Too bad you are only looking at "statistics" from 5 (?) games instead of using
>>>your own knowledge of chess in order to evaluate what Hiarcs' strongpoints are.
>>>Imho it is not the tournament book, because that really sucks, so for starters
>>>it should have been replaced.
>>
>>
>>According to the hiarcs8 team the tournament book is the best choice, so I dont
>>see any reason not to believe them.
>
>I can imagine why they say that, because it takes a lot of time to make a tuned
>book. My point however is that I urge people to take a closer look at the
>mainlines of this tournament book and compare it with current theory mainlines.
>My opnion is that the tournament book is not ambitious enough in the sense that
>it avoids critical lines, and the reason why is just a guessing game. Maybe
>chosing sidelines, accepting a lesser position compared to critical lines, is a
>way to save time in the huge task of completing an "allround" book. Remember
>that some of the better bookmakers have years of experience to benefit from, and
>there is no easy way to catch up; just hard work. Again, avoiding the mainlines
>as an alternative is, imho, very counterproductive for Hiarcs. I even think that
>using no book at all is better than using the tournament book, if it weren't for
>the increased risk of repeated losses. As a last note: I noticed that in chosing
>a lesser alternative move Hiarcs, most of the times does not agree with the
>bookmakers decision. This indicates that the book is not "tuned" at all. I don't
>have more to say on this topic. These are my observations, and if anybody cares,
>they should take a closer look themselves and draw their own conclusions.


I am yet so a game where hiarcs actually lost due to bad line in the tournament
book. Not that there isnt, but I dont think its as bad as you might think it is.

pavs



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