Author: Chris Carson
Date: 09:16:51 06/01/02
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On June 01, 2002 at 12:11:48, Chris Carson wrote: >On June 01, 2002 at 11:19:26, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On June 01, 2002 at 07:57:45, Chris Carson wrote: >> >>>On June 01, 2002 at 00:50:25, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On May 31, 2002 at 07:16:45, Chris Carson wrote: >>>> >>>>>Dann, >>>>> >>>>>If you believe that ratings inflation exists, then do the stats/research and >>>>>present a proof. It may exist and there is plenty of data to look at. If you >>>>>can show this, it would prove your point. You should be able to establish >>>>>averages for today, 5 years back, 10 years back, 20 years back. Show N >>>>>population, break out #GM's, #IM's, ... Show the std deviation. If there is >>>>>inflation, you can show it to be significant and establish a 95% confidence >>>>>level. You can show the rate of inflaciton over time, factors that influence >>>>>the inflation (based on data not opinion) and make recommendations for >>>>>correcting this. It would be impressive. The records are there, you may have >>>>>to dig them out, but I "know" the data is there. Spend some time, and then >>>>>please present your findings, I would really like to see what you find and what >>>>>you have to say after you discover it. >>>> >>>> >>>>There is _no_ way to prove it. Because the "old pool" is gone and can't be >>>>compared to the "new pool" to see if players from the "old pool" get a higher >>>>or lower rating when they jump into the "new pool". >>> >>>This is hogwash, there is no problem comparing these, just saying different >>>"pools" over and over does not change it. The ratings were never disconnected >>>or derived from different "pools". some people left and some new ones added, but >>>there was mostly overlap for most of the time, not different. >> >> >>I gave a direct reference to Elo's book which is derived from sampling >>theory. >> >>Can you give a reference to say "this is hogwash"?? >> >>I didn't think so... > >You maybe quoting from Elo book, but you have not given the citation. Please >provide so everyone can go get the same book you are quoting from. Just saying >Elo book is not a citation, if you do not know how to provide a citation, I will >do it for you. Ia this the book you are using? What page is your citation from? A. E. Elo, The Rating of Chessplayers, Past and Present, Arco, New York, 1987 Because I have not found it.
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