Author: Mark Loftus
Date: 10:43:43 06/01/02
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There would have to be a way to charge the audience a small fee to watch these GM vs. program games, perhaps over the internet. Mark On May 31, 2002 at 23:00:58, K. Burcham wrote: >Dan I dont feel the programs are ready for this. I wish they were. I do feel >that the top ten programs can beat any GM including Kramnik and Kasparov in some >positions, and in some games. If a GM can close the position without either side >losing any pawns, then the GM can let the clock run out and collect his money. >In these positions, I know that some GM understand what it takes to get a >program to move a certain piece behind these walls. Some GM if they understand >programs, can close files and draw when they want to. I also feel that no >programmer is ready to take this on, long term, as a project to improve his >program to beat humans. For now there is money for programmers to win against >other programs in SSDF and computer world tournaments. These are the two big >motivaters for selling ones own program. > >I know Robert said his goal is to create a version of crafty to be better >against human GM. > >Example: >1. A new version of a program is released titled "GM Slayer". >2. Sarah gets beta, plays against top 10 commercial programs, 4000 games. >3. "GM Slayer" places 4th in Sarah's tournament. >4. SSDF releases new list, "GM Slayer is 4th on SSDF list. >5. Chessbase sales of new program "GM Slayer" are below average. > > >I think that most programmers want their program to be at top of SSDF and to win >world computer chess championship, because of this, I think that programmers are >testing against other programs, and test positions. > >I do not think that any programmer can afford to "hire" the GM, to improve his >program against humans. I also do not think that any programmer is presently >working on his program with the intentions of his program being better against >human GM. He may want his program to play better against humans, and he may >think it will when released, but he is not trying to prove this in testing >during developement. > >It would be interesting to see this list as you describe it. >It would be interesting to anaylize games from these matches. >But I dont think programs are ready to "cross pollinate". > >The true strength of todays top programs against humans cannot be shown until >someone takes this on a personal project, long term. > >Chessbase could do this, but there would be not be a return on investment. > >kburcham
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