Author: Uri Blass
Date: 16:36:36 06/01/02
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On June 01, 2002 at 18:05:10, stuart taylor wrote: >On May 31, 2002 at 18:27:58, Ron Langeveld wrote: > >>On May 31, 2002 at 06:50:56, stuart taylor wrote: >> >>>For me, the experiment is over. Hiarcs does not look especially great at higher >>>time controls. Even if it would win a match like this (although it is looking a >>>bit doubtful) it is clear that it does not excell at this time allowance. >>> Maybe at an hour per move it would, but the indications for that are also >>>nothing special, as this is not showing any movement in that direction either. >>> >>>So, in spite of the one or two brilliances which Hiarcs 8.0 might be capable >>>of, as written about in Uniaks article, I don't know if I want to buy it for >>>that alone. >>>S.Taylor >> >>Too bad you are only looking at "statistics" from 5 (?) games instead of using >>your own knowledge of chess in order to evaluate what Hiarcs' strongpoints are. >>Imho it is not the tournament book, because that really sucks, so for starters >>it should have been replaced. > >With the results starting off like this, it is hard to believe that Hiarcs will >have atleast 75% wins over Fritz even after 1000 games. I could tell you it before the match. It is hard to believe that a top program that does not get at least 60% at blitz against the top programs can suddenly get more than 75% at long time control. I believe that there are programs that earn more from time but the difference is usually small unless there is a significant bug(for example a program that always lose on time or always search depth 1 at blitz and it is not the case with Hiarcs). I also see no reason to suspect that Hiarcs8 earns more from time before the match(unless you compare it with Hiarcs7.32 that had bugs for long time control). I think that as someone from Israel it is better if you ask the question if Junior,Genesis or Movei earn more from time relative to other engines. I suspect that Movei earns more from time than the english program monarch(both programs are free winboard programs) but I am not sure because I have not enough data to know. Both programs play in the 5th division and movei has 9.5/14 when monarch has 7/14(movei beated monarch in the match between them 1.5-.5). I may get more data about the difference between them at 40/40 when the tournament is finished. It may be interesting if somebody can do a tournament with both programs at 1 minute/40 moves(I suspect that Monarch is better at that time control but I have not enough data to be sure). Uri
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