Author: Chris Carson
Date: 03:29:06 06/02/02
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On June 01, 2002 at 21:42:05, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On June 01, 2002 at 12:53:59, Chris Carson wrote: > >>On June 01, 2002 at 11:19:26, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On June 01, 2002 at 07:57:45, Chris Carson wrote: >>> >>>>On June 01, 2002 at 00:50:25, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 31, 2002 at 07:16:45, Chris Carson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Dann, >>>>>> >>>>>>If you believe that ratings inflation exists, then do the stats/research and >>>>>>present a proof. It may exist and there is plenty of data to look at. If you >>>>>>can show this, it would prove your point. You should be able to establish >>>>>>averages for today, 5 years back, 10 years back, 20 years back. Show N >>>>>>population, break out #GM's, #IM's, ... Show the std deviation. If there is >>>>>>inflation, you can show it to be significant and establish a 95% confidence >>>>>>level. You can show the rate of inflaciton over time, factors that influence >>>>>>the inflation (based on data not opinion) and make recommendations for >>>>>>correcting this. It would be impressive. The records are there, you may have >>>>>>to dig them out, but I "know" the data is there. Spend some time, and then >>>>>>please present your findings, I would really like to see what you find and what >>>>>>you have to say after you discover it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>There is _no_ way to prove it. Because the "old pool" is gone and can't be >>>>>compared to the "new pool" to see if players from the "old pool" get a higher >>>>>or lower rating when they jump into the "new pool". >>>> >>>>This is hogwash, there is no problem comparing these, just saying different >>>>"pools" over and over does not change it. The ratings were never disconnected >>>>or derived from different "pools". some people left and some new ones added, but >>>>there was mostly overlap for most of the time, not different. >>> >>> >>>I gave a direct reference to Elo's book which is derived from sampling >>>theory. >>> >>>Can you give a reference to say "this is hogwash"?? >>> >>>I didn't think so... >> >>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?233311 > > >You need to actually read his book and understand what he was saying when >he compared players... http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?233447
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