Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:55:16 06/02/02
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On June 02, 2002 at 06:29:06, Chris Carson wrote: >On June 01, 2002 at 21:42:05, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On June 01, 2002 at 12:53:59, Chris Carson wrote: >> >>>On June 01, 2002 at 11:19:26, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On June 01, 2002 at 07:57:45, Chris Carson wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 01, 2002 at 00:50:25, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 31, 2002 at 07:16:45, Chris Carson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Dann, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If you believe that ratings inflation exists, then do the stats/research and >>>>>>>present a proof. It may exist and there is plenty of data to look at. If you >>>>>>>can show this, it would prove your point. You should be able to establish >>>>>>>averages for today, 5 years back, 10 years back, 20 years back. Show N >>>>>>>population, break out #GM's, #IM's, ... Show the std deviation. If there is >>>>>>>inflation, you can show it to be significant and establish a 95% confidence >>>>>>>level. You can show the rate of inflaciton over time, factors that influence >>>>>>>the inflation (based on data not opinion) and make recommendations for >>>>>>>correcting this. It would be impressive. The records are there, you may have >>>>>>>to dig them out, but I "know" the data is there. Spend some time, and then >>>>>>>please present your findings, I would really like to see what you find and what >>>>>>>you have to say after you discover it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>There is _no_ way to prove it. Because the "old pool" is gone and can't be >>>>>>compared to the "new pool" to see if players from the "old pool" get a higher >>>>>>or lower rating when they jump into the "new pool". >>>>> >>>>>This is hogwash, there is no problem comparing these, just saying different >>>>>"pools" over and over does not change it. The ratings were never disconnected >>>>>or derived from different "pools". some people left and some new ones added, but >>>>>there was mostly overlap for most of the time, not different. >>>> >>>> >>>>I gave a direct reference to Elo's book which is derived from sampling >>>>theory. >>>> >>>>Can you give a reference to say "this is hogwash"?? >>>> >>>>I didn't think so... >>> >>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?233311 >> >> >>You need to actually read his book and understand what he was saying when >>he compared players... > >http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?233447 I believe I _have_ agreed we disagree. So long as you consider all FIDE ratings for the past 50 years to be one "pool" we disagree in a basic way. Because it simply isn't true...
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