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Subject: Re: One mate to solve.

Author: leonid

Date: 16:11:16 06/03/02

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On June 03, 2002 at 16:57:12, Heiner Marxen wrote:

>On June 02, 2002 at 17:28:13, Heiner Marxen wrote:
>
>>On June 02, 2002 at 16:40:44, leonid wrote:
>>
>>>On June 02, 2002 at 15:54:40, Heiner Marxen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 02, 2002 at 08:20:52, leonid wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 02, 2002 at 05:20:35, Tim Foden wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On June 01, 2002 at 08:45:35, leonid wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>[D]Kn4QQ/RNQQQQQ1/nqrqqp2/qNRQq3/kBBp4/rbq5/Pb6/q7 w - -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Please indicate your result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>GLC 2.18, 24MB Hash, AXP 1.46GHz, finds that Bxb3+ is a mate in 10 after 21.04
>>>>>>seconds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers, Tim.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks, Tim!
>>>>>
>>>>>Since I see that you found mate at 10, I will try later at the same depth but
>>>>>with much deeper selective. Before I used my usual, almost default selective
>>>>>that make search at reasonable time. It is "mixed search" where initial brute
>>>>>force search goes the most 3 moves deep (6 plys) before switching to "real
>>>>>selective". I will try later to search 4 and 5 moves (8 and 10 plys) by brute
>>>>>force before starting "real selective".
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Leonid.
>>>>
>>>>And according to Chest there is no mate in 9 (2 hours on K7/600, 350 MB hash).
>>>>Since the EBF has increased up to above 18 in the last 2 depthes, it may
>>>>take some time for Chest to complete depth 10.  I'll follow-up, then.
>>>>But so far it appears to be a mate-in-10 for sure.
>>>
>>>Thanks, Heiner!
>>>
>>>Now I know for sure that it is mate in 10. It could be useful for me to know
>>>exact depth in the future. When I write something, I do use my old positions
>>>(and many positions from books) for finding bugs. If one day my program will
>>>find here mate in 9, then I will know that I must look into my code.
>>>
>>>My branching factor jumped so much on this position that 8 moves took already 1
>>>hour to see it. I stopped right there. Branching between 7 and 8 moves was 24.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Leonid.
>>
>>Mine was slightly better, so far:
>>
>>#  3      0.01s                 1kN [  9.22]  0.93         74-         0
>>#  4      0.07s [  7.00]        4kN [  5.29]  1.02        509-         0
>>#  5      0.49s [  7.00]       28kN [  7.80]  1.14       3169-         0
>>#  6      2.88s [  5.88]      168kN [  6.05]  1.39      13961-         0
>>#  7     25.72s [  8.93]     1616kN [  9.63]  1.64     120110-         0
>>#  8    412.67s [ 16.04]    28303kN [ 17.51]  1.92    1825814-        32
>>#  9   7533.33s [ 18.26]   524949kN [ 18.55]  2.03   33174075-  24426174
>>
>>But it may jump once more for depth 10, we'll have to wait and see.
>
>After 22 hours Chest says "mate in 10" with 4 key moves:


Great! I don't think that mine will search even 9 moves at this time with old
branching and even less without hash. On Celeron 600Mhx it was:

Move             Time            Branching factor        NPS

4                0.16 sec                                273k
                                 7.66
5                1.26 sec                                255k
                                 5.6
6                7.08 sec                                263k
                                 21.79
7                2 min 34 sec                            326k
                                 23.57
8                1 h 00 min 30 sec

It is curious that this position have 4 solutions when it not look to be
symmetrical.

Cheers,
Leonid.



># 10  78888.71s [ 10.47]  5395652kN [ 10.28]  2.45  340008494- 331260593
>
>        Bc4 : b3
>        Bb4 : a5
>        Qc7 : b6
>        Qc7 : d6
>
>5 hours later he tells the PVs:
>
>PV: Bxb3+ Qxb3 axb3+ Rxb3 Nc3+ Rxc3 Rxa5+ Kxb4 Qxb6+ Rxb6 Rb5+ Ka3 Qexd6+ Q5xd6
>Ra5+ Kb4 Q7b5+ Rxb5 Qxb5#
>PV: Bxa5 Nxc7+ Qxc7 Na6 Nxc3+ Bxc3 Qxb6 Rc8+ Qxc8 Qxc8+ Rxc8 Qb8+ Rxb8 Nc7+
>Qbxc7 Qxd5 Bb4+ Qa5 Nc5#
>PV: Qxb6 Qxb6 Rxc6 Nxc6 Qd7xe6 Qdd8+ Qdxd8 Qb8+ Qxb8 Bxc4 Nc5+ Qxc5 Rxa6+ Na5
>Rxa5+ Kxb4 Qxc5+ Kxc5 Qg8f8#
>PV: Qcxd6 Bxc4 Nxc3+ Bxc3 Rxa5+ Qxa5 Q7xc6+ Nxc6 Q5xc6+ Bb5 Bxa5 Qc8+ Qcxc8 Nc7+
>Bxc7+ Ba6 Rxa6+ Qa5 Qge8#
>
>(which are taken from the hash table, and must be recomputed, if not there,
> any more)
>
>Cheers,
>Heiner



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