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Subject: Re: Record forced-mate announcements? ' in 142

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:09:23 06/04/02

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On June 04, 2002 at 14:25:51, Helmut Conrady wrote:

>On June 04, 2002 at 12:56:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 04, 2002 at 08:43:27, Helmut Conrady wrote:
>>
>>>On June 03, 2002 at 20:02:51, GuyHaworth wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>At http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=339
>>>>
>>>>there is a report that in the 7th Round of the 2nd CSVN Computer chess
>>>>tournament (Leiden), 'mate in 64' was announced against Morphy.
>>>>
>>>>The question was also asked:  "is this a record?" to which we might add....
>>>>
>>>>a)  in tournaments, and/or
>>>>b)  in all computer-computer games
>>>>
>>>>Examples of deeper forced win announcements welcome.  I believe KNNKP has
>>>>occured ... and maybe KQPKQ has occured.
>>>>
>>>>g
>>>
>>>The longest mate in a human otb-play I know arose in Landau-Abrahams,
>>>Bournemouth 1939, with a # in 142 in this position:
>>>
>>>[D]6k1/5R2/K7/1n1nN3/8/8/8/8 b - - 0 78
>>>
>>>Helmut
>>
>>
>>I think he was looking for "the longest _announced_ mate"...
>
>Of course. But I thought this would be interesting, too...
>>
>>I can't imagine any human saying "mate in 142" whether in a game, in
>>analysis, or whatever...
>
>
>BTW: The longest COMPOSED problem is a mate in 271!!
>
>Helmut


I remember one such position.  Where the king had to walk across the board,
force the opponent to move a pawn, then back across the board to eat it, then
back again.  Not too hard for a human to see that.  Probably impossible for
the computer.

But then again, I have also seen the computer announce a (non-EGTB) mate
in 20 moves almost instantly, that no human could see given reasonable time.
Much less 1 second.



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