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Subject: Re: pawn race position

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 16:24:55 06/05/02

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On June 05, 2002 at 10:27:28, Jon Dart wrote:

>Recently Arasan had this position in a game:
>
>[D] 8/8/1p5P/2b2P2/7K/8/1k6/8/ b - -
>
>Crafty evaluates this statically as won for White, which is correct. Arasan's
>pawn race code doesn't currently cover this case, although it would evaluate it
>correctly if there was no Black bishop, and it sees pretty quickly in the search
>what the situation is. But in the game, it exchanged into this lost position, as
>it couldn't search deep enough to see the consequences.
>
>I'm wondering how well other programs evaluate this.

Crafty with 5 piece tablebase files:

EPD Kit revision date: 1996.04.21
unable to open book file [e:\crafty\release/books.bin].
hash table memory = 48M bytes.
pawn hash table memory = 6M bytes.
EGTB cache memory = 32M bytes.
draw score set to    0.00 pawns.
choose from book moves randomly (using weights.)
choose from 5 best moves.
book learning enabled
result learning enabled
position learning enabled
threshold set to 9 pawns.
5 piece tablebase files found
19045kb of RAM used for TB indices and decompression tables

Crafty v18.15

White(1): hash 300M
hash table memory = 192M bytes.
White(1): st 999
search time set to 999.00.
White(1): setboard 8/8/1p5P/2b2P2/7K/8/1k6/8/ b - -
              puzzling over a move to ponder.
end-game phase
              clearing hash tables
         nss  depth   time  score   variation (1)
                7     0.80   0.20   1. ... Bd4 2. Kg5 Kc2 3. h7 Bh8 4.
                                    f6 Kd3 5. f7 Bg7
                7->   1.10   0.20   1. ... Bd4 2. Kg5 Kc2 3. h7 Bh8 4.
                                    f6 Kd3 5. f7 Bg7
                8     1.31     --   1. ... Bd4
                8     1.36   3.86   1. ... Bd4 2. Kg5 b5 3. h7 Bh8 4. f6
                                    Kb3 5. f7 Bg7 6. h8=Q Bxh8 7. f8=Q
                8->   1.54   3.86   1. ... Bd4 2. Kg5 b5 3. h7 Bh8 4. f6
                                    Kb3 5. f7 Bg7 6. h8=Q Bxh8 7. f8=Q
                9     1.71     --   1. ... Bd4
                9     1.93   5.02   1. ... Bd4 2. Kg5 b5 3. f6 b4 4. f7
                                    Be3+ 5. Kg6 b3 6. h7 Kc2 7. h8=Q
                9->   3.28   5.02   1. ... Bd4 2. Kg5 b5 3. f6 b4 4. f7
                                    Be3+ 5. Kg6 b3 6. h7 Kc2 7. h8=Q
               10     3.52     --   1. ... Bd4
               10     3.72   5.56   1. ... Bd4 2. Kg5 b5 3. f6 b4 4. h7
                                    b3 5. h8=Q Kb1 6. Qd8 Be5
               10->   4.73   5.56   1. ... Bd4 2. Kg5 b5 3. f6 b4 4. h7
                                    b3 5. h8=Q Kb1 6. Qd8 Be5
               11     5.51   5.63   1. ... Bd4 2. Kg5 b5 3. f6 b4 4. h7
                                    b3 5. h8=Q Kb1 6. Qh1+ Kc2 7. Qc6+
                                    Kd3 8. Kg6
               11->   7.60   5.63   1. ... Bd4 2. Kg5 b5 3. f6 b4 4. h7
                                    b3 5. h8=Q Kb1 6. Qh1+ Kc2 7. Qc6+
                                    Kd3 8. Kg6
               12     8.20     --   1. ... Bd4
               12     8.75   6.60   1. ... Bd4 2. Kg5 b5 3. f6 b4 4. h7
                                    b3 5. h8=Q Kc3 6. Qc8+ Kd2 7. f7 Be3+
                                    8. Kf5 b2 9. f8=Q b1=Q+
               12->  11.78   6.60   1. ... Bd4 2. Kg5 b5 3. f6 b4 4. h7
                                    b3 5. h8=Q Kc3 6. Qc8+ Kd2 7. f7 Be3+
                                    8. Kf5 b2 9. f8=Q b1=Q+
               13    13.00   6.70   1. ... Bd4 2. Kg5 b5 3. f6 b4 4. h7
                                    b3 5. h8=Q Be3+ 6. Kg6 Kc2 7. f7 b2
                                    8. f8=Q b1=Q 9. Kf5
               13->  18.65   6.70   1. ... Bd4 2. Kg5 b5 3. f6 b4 4. h7
                                    b3 5. h8=Q Be3+ 6. Kg6 Kc2 7. f7 b2
                                    8. f8=Q b1=Q 9. Kf5
               14    20.23     --   1. ... Bd4
               14    22.68   8.27   1. ... Bd4 2. Kg5 b5 3. f6 b4 4. h7
                                    b3 5. h8=Q Be3+ 6. Kg6 Bc5 7. f7+ Ka2
                                    8. Qa8+ Kb2 9. f8=Q Bxf8 10. Qxf8
               14->  34.72   8.27   1. ... Bd4 2. Kg5 b5 3. f6 b4 4. h7
                                    b3 5. h8=Q Be3+ 6. Kg6 Bc5 7. f7+ Ka2
                                    8. Qa8+ Kb2 9. f8=Q Bxf8 10. Qxf8
               15    41.05     --   1. ... Bd4
               15     1:17   9.07   1. ... Bd4 2. Kg5 Kc2 3. f6 Be3+ 4.
                                    Kg6 Bc5 5. f7 Bf8 6. h7 Kb3 7. Kf5
                                    Kc4 8. h8=Q Bc5 9. Qc8 Kd4 10. f8=Q
                                    Bxf8 11. Qxf8
               15     1:31   9.04   1. ... Be7+ 2. Kh5 b5 3. h7 Bf6 4.
                                    Kg6 Bh8 5. f6 Kc2 6. f7 Kd3 7. f8=Q
                                    Bc3 8. Qf1+ Ke3 9. Qh3+ Kd2 10. Qd7+
                                    Ke1 11. Qe8+ Kd2 12. Qxb5
               15->   1:38   9.04   1. ... Be7+ 2. Kh5 b5 3. h7 Bf6 4.
                                    Kg6 Bh8 5. f6 Kc2 6. f7 Kd3 7. f8=Q
                                    Bc3 8. Qf1+ Ke3 9. Qh3+ Kd2 10. Qd7+
                                    Ke1 11. Qe8+ Kd2 12. Qxb5
Black(1): Be7+ [pondering]   1/18*  1. ... Be7+
              clearing hash tables
              time surplus   0.00  time limit 16:39 (16:39)
         nss  depth   time  score   variation (1)
                8     0.95   6.21   2. Kh5 b5 3. Kg6 b4 4. f6 Bd6 5. h7
                                    Kc3 6. h8=Q
                8->   1.01   6.21   2. Kh5 b5 3. Kg6 b4 4. f6 Bd6 5. h7
                                    Kc3 6. h8=Q
                9     1.02     --   2. Kh5
                9     1.16   5.96   2. Kh5 b5 3. Kg6 b4 4. h7 b3 5. h8=Q+
                                    Ka2 6. f6 Ba3 7. Qa8
                9->   1.17   5.96   2. Kh5 b5 3. Kg6 b4 4. h7 b3 5. h8=Q+
                                    Ka2 6. f6 Ba3 7. Qa8
               10     1.58   6.35   2. Kh5 b5 3. h7 Bf6 4. Kg6 Be5 5. f6
                                    Kc3 6. h8=Q b4 7. Qd8
               10->   1.60   6.35   2. Kh5 b5 3. h7 Bf6 4. Kg6 Be5 5. f6
                                    Kc3 6. h8=Q b4 7. Qd8
               11     2.00     ++   2. Kh5!!
               11->   2.18   6.74   2. Kh5 b5 3. h7 Bf6 4. Kg6 Be5 5. f6
                                    Kc3 6. h8=Q b4 7. Qd8
               12     2.96     ++   2. Kh5!!
               12->   3.70   7.13   2. Kh5 b5 3. h7 Bf6 4. Kg6 Be5 5. f6
                                    Kc3 6. h8=Q b4 7. Qd8
               13     4.77     ++   2. Kh5!!
               13     6.01   7.72   2. Kh5 b5 3. h7 Bf6 4. Kg6 Bh8 5. f6
                                    b4 6. f7 b3 7. f8=Q Bd4 8. Kf7 Kc3
                                    9. Qc8+ Kd3 10. h8=Q Bxh8 11. Qxh8
               13->   6.12   7.72   2. Kh5 b5 3. h7 Bf6 4. Kg6 Bh8 5. f6
                                    b4 6. f7 b3 7. f8=Q Bd4 8. Kf7 Kc3
                                    9. Qc8+ Kd3 10. h8=Q Bxh8 11. Qxh8
               14     8.21   7.72   2. Kh5 b5 3. h7 Bf6 4. Kg6 Bh8 5. f6
                                    b4 6. f7 b3 7. f8=Q Bd4 8. Kf7 Kc3
                                    9. Qc8+ Kd3 10. h8=Q Bxh8 11. Qxh8
               14->   8.25   7.72   2. Kh5 b5 3. h7 Bf6 4. Kg6 Bh8 5. f6
                                    b4 6. f7 b3 7. f8=Q Bd4 8. Kf7 Kc3
                                    9. Qc8+ Kd3 10. h8=Q Bxh8 11. Qxh8
               15    10.51     ++   2. Kh5!!
               15    24.20  13.01   2. Kh5 b5 3. h7 Bf6 4. Kg6 Bc3 5. f6
                                    Kb1 6. h8=Q b4 7. f7 Kb2 8. f8=Q Kc2
                                    9. Qc8 Kd3 10. Qhe8
               15->  24.42  13.01   2. Kh5 b5 3. h7 Bf6 4. Kg6 Bc3 5. f6
                                    Kb1 6. h8=Q b4 7. f7 Kb2 8. f8=Q Kc2
                                    9. Qc8 Kd3 10. Qhe8
               16    34.99     ++   2. Kh5!!

Yace:
white ( 1): setboard 8/8/1p5P/2b2P2/7K/8/1k6/8/ b - -
Stored 8 learned positions into hash table
black ( 1): go
usetime = 998.00, mintime = 998.00 maxtime = 998.00 tl 998.00 ml 0
         1   0.009   2.33  1t  1...b5 {270}
        22   0.010   2.33  1.  1...b5 {270}
        75   0.010   1.90  2-- 1...b5 2.h7 Kc1 {270}
       127   0.011   1.86  2t  1...b5 2.h7 Bd4 {270}
       491   0.011   1.86  2.  1...b5 2.h7 Bd4 {270}
       662   0.012   1.76  3t  1...b5 2.h7 Be7+ 3.Kg4 {270}
      1802   0.014   1.76  3.  1...b5 2.h7 Be7+ 3.Kg4 {270}
      2276   0.016   2.04  4t  1...b5 2.h7 Bd4 3.Kg5 b4 {270}
      5368   0.021   2.04  4.  1...b5 2.h7 Bd4 3.Kg5 b4 {270}
      6407   0.023   1.83  5t  1...b5 2.h7 Bd4 3.Kg5 b4 4.f6 {270}
     12791   0.059   1.83  5.  1...b5 2.h7 Bd4 3.Kg5 b4 4.f6 {270}
     19880   0.118   1.43  6-- 1...b5 2.f6 Ka2 3.h7 Bf2+ 4.Kh5 Bg3 {270}
     21253   0.120   1.20  6t  1...b5 2.f6 Bd4 3.f7 Bc5 4.h7 Bf2+ 5.Kg5 {270}
     25918   0.146   1.21  6t+ 1...Bd4 2.Kh3
     31444   0.196   1.47  6t  1...Bd4 2.Kg4 b5 3.Kf4 b4H 4.Ke4H {270}
     37741   0.204   1.47  6.  1...Bd4 2.Kg4 b5 3.Kf4 b4 4.Ke4 {270}
     49310   0.336   0.99  7-- 1...Bd4 2.Kg5 Bc5 3.Kf6 Kc3 4.h7 Bd4+H 5.Kg5H
                               b5H 6.f6H Be3+H 7.Kf5H {270}
     49642   0.338   0.99  7t  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5H 3.h7H Kc3H 4.f6H Be3+H 5.Kf5H
                               {270}
     69950   0.714   0.99  7.  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.h7 Kc3 4.f6 Be3+ 5.Kf5 {270}
     85275   0.795   0.59  8-- 1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.h7 Ka1 4.f6 Be3+ 5.Kf5 Bg5
                               {270}
     87842   0.806  -1.06  8-- 1...Bd4 2.Kg5 Kc3 3.h7 Be3+ 4.Kg6 b5 5.h8=Q+H
                               Bd4H 6.Qxd4+H Kxd4H {0}
     94707   0.860  -2.85  8t  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.h7 Be3+ 4.Kg6 Bd4H 5.f6H
                               Bxf6H 6.Kxf6H Kc3H {0}
    128480   0.938  -2.85  8.  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.h7 Be3+ 4.Kg6 Bd4 5.f6 Bxf6
                               6.Kxf6 Kc3 {0}
    153356   1.235  -3.46  9-- 1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.h7 Be3+ 4.Kg6 Bd4 5.f6 Bxf6H
                               6.Kxf6H Kc3H {0}
    157998   1.257  -4.75  9-- 1...Bd4 2.Kg5 Be3+ 3.Kg6 b5 4.h7 Bd4 5.f6 b4
                               6.h8=Q Bxf6H {-571}
    198803   1.482  -6.06  9t  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 b4 4.h7 Kc2 5.h8=Q b3
                               6.Kf5 {-651}
    264934   2.309  -6.06  9.  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 b4 4.h7 Kc2 5.h8=Q b3
                               6.Kf5 {-651}
    332316   2.917  -6.26 10t  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 b4 4.f7 Kc2 5.f8=Q Be3+
                               6.Kf5 b3 {-651}
    351001   3.032  -6.25 10t+ 1...b5 2.f6 b4 3.h7 b3 4.f7 Kc2 5.h8=Q Be7+
                               6.Kg4 b2 7.Kf4
    440075   3.754  -6.16 10t  1...b5 2.f6 b4 3.h7 b3 4.f7 Kc2 5.h8=Q Be7+
                               6.Kg4 b2 7.Qh2+ Kc3 {-651}
    587216   4.965  -6.16 10.  1...b5 2.f6 b4 3.h7 b3 4.f7 Kc2 5.h8=Q Be7+
                               6.Kg4 b2 7.Qh2+ Kc3 {-651}
    768314   6.088  -6.56 11-- 1...b5 2.f6 b4 3.h7 b3 4.f7 Kc2 5.h8=Q b2 6.Qc8
                               b1=N 7.f8=Q Kb3 {-1312}
   1155672   8.567  -7.56 11-- 1...b5 2.f6 b4 3.h7 b3 4.f7 Kc2 5.h8=Q b2 6.Qc8
                               b1=N 7.f8=Q Kd3 {-1312}
   1313932   9.237  -7.58 11t  1...b5 2.f6 b4 3.h7 b3 4.f7 Ka2H 5.h8=NH {HT}
   1314850   9.271  -7.56 11t+ 1...Bd4 2.Kg5
   1442571  10.214  -6.60 11t  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 b4 4.h7 Kc2 5.f7 b3
                               6.f8=Q Be3+ 7.Kg6 b2 8.Qf5+ Kc1 {-651}
   1840516  13.134  -6.60 11.  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 b4 4.h7 Kc2 5.f7 b3
                               6.f8=Q Be3+ 7.Kg6 b2 8.Qf5+ Kc1 {-651}
   2006136  14.199  -6.60 12t  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 b4 4.h7 Kc2 5.f7 b3
                               6.f8=Q Be3+ 7.Kg6 b2 8.Qf5+ Kc1H 9.Qf1+H Kc2H
                               {-651}
   2492000  16.523  -6.60 12.  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 b4 4.h7 Kc2 5.f7 b3
                               6.f8=Q Be3+ 7.Kg6 b2 8.Qf5+ Kc1 9.Qf1+ Kc2
                               {-651}
   3082611  20.663  -6.70 13t  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 Kc2 4.f7 Be3+ 5.Kg6 b4
                               6.f8=Q b3 7.Qf5+ Kc3 8.h7 Bd4H {-651}
   4053859  28.901  -6.70 13.  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 Kc2 4.f7 Be3+ 5.Kg6 b4
                               6.f8=Q b3 7.Qf5+ Kc3 8.h7 Bd4 {-651}
   4934389  33.265  -7.10 14-- 1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 Kc2 4.f7 Be3+ 5.Kh5 b4
                               6.f8=Q Kb3 7.h7 Ka2
   6383102  37.235  -7.92 14t  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 Kc2 4.f7 Be3+ 5.Kh5 b4
                               6.f8=Q b3 7.Qf5+ Kc3 8.h7 Bd4 9.Qc8+H Kb2H
                               10.h8=QH {-1572}
   8761927  51.513  -7.92 14.  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 Kc2 4.f7 Be3+ 5.Kh5 b4
                               6.f8=Q b3 7.Qf5+ Kc3 8.h7 Bd4 9.Qc8+ Kb2
                               10.h8=Q {-1572}
  10106675  57.595  -8.32 15-- 1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 Kc2 4.f7 Be3+ 5.Kh5 b4
                               6.h7 Kb3 7.h8=Q Bh6
  13020803  1:09.4  -8.64 15t  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 Kc2 4.f7 b4 5.f8=Q b3
                               6.h7 b2 7.Qf5+ Kc3 8.Qf3+ Kc4 9.Qe4 b1=QH
                               10.Kg4H {HT}
  16970664  1:46.6  -8.64 15.  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 Kc2 4.f7 b4 5.f8=Q b3
                               6.h7 b2 7.Qf5+ Kc3 8.Qf3+ Kc4 9.Qe4 b1=Q 10.Kg4
  19913097  2:01.0  -9.04 16-- 1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 Kc2 4.f7 b4 5.f8=Q b3
                               6.h7 b2 7.Qf5+ Kd2 8.Qd5 Kc3 9.Qxd4+ Kc2
  22641639  2:09.6 -10.04 16-- 1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 Kc2 4.f7 b4 5.f8=Q b3
                               6.h7 b2 7.Qf5+ Kd2 8.h8=Q Bf6+ 9.Qhxf6 Ke1
  31079422  2:36.9 -14.78 16t  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 b4 4.f7 b3 5.f8=Q Ka2
                               6.Qa8+ Kb2 7.h7 Be3+ 8.Kh5 Bd4 9.Qf8 Kc3
                               10.h8=Q b2H 11.Qc5+H Kb3H 12.Qg8+H Ka4H {-1572}
  39110433  3:37.9 -14.78 16.  1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 b4 4.f7 b3 5.f8=Q Ka2
                               6.Qa8+ Kb2 7.h7 Be3+ 8.Kh5 Bd4 9.Qf8 Kc3
                               10.h8=Q b2 11.Qc5+ Kb3 12.Qg8+ Ka4 {-1572}
  43247832  4:35.0 -15.18 17-- 1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 b4 4.f7 b3 5.f8=Q Ka2
                               6.h7 Be3+ 7.Kh5 b2 8.Qb4 Ka1 9.h8=Q Bc5 10.Qxc5
                               Kb1
  53828668  5:46.2 -16.18 17-- 1...Bd4 2.Kg5 b5 3.f6 b4 4.f7 b3 5.f8=Q Kc2
                               6.h7 Be3+ 7.Kh5 b2 8.h8=Q b1=B




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