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Subject: Re: HLCC - 3 || Fritz 7 vs Hiarcs 8 || Game -10 (PGN) || END ||

Author: pavel

Date: 02:51:07 06/06/02

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>>
>>[Event "HLCC-3"]
>>[Site "home"]
>>[Date "2002.06.05"]
>>[Round "10.1"]
>>[White "Fritz 7"]
>>[Black "Hiarcs 8"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>[ECO "B45"]
>>[WhiteElo "2500"]
>>[BlackElo "2500"]
>>[PlyCount "105"]
>>[EventDate "2002.05.25"]
>>[Source "Mahamood"]
>>
>>1. d4 {1} 1... e6 {0} 2. e4 {0} 2... c5 {0} 3. Nf3 {0} 3... cxd4 {0} 4. Nxd4 {0
>>} 4... Nc6 {0} 5. Nc3 {0} 5... Nf6 {0} 6. Nxc6 {0} 6... bxc6 {0} 7. e5 {0} 7...
>>Nd5 {0} 8. Ne4 {0} 8... Qc7 {0} 9. f4 {0} 9... Qb6 {0} 10. c4 {0} 10... Bb4+ {0
>>} 11. Ke2 {0} 11... Ba6 {0} 12. Kf3 {0} 12... f5 {0} 13. exf6 {0} 13... Nxf6 {0
>>} 14. c5 {0} 14... Bxc5 {0.25/15 2835}
>
>
>It seems that hiarcs blundered in the first move out of book.
>
>I believe that 14...Qa5 is the right move but I did not give my programs a long
>tiem to analyze.
>
>
>I believe that most programs have better positional understanding than Hiarcs8
>and they know that a piece is clearly more important than 2 pawns something that
>hiarcs does not seem to know here based on it's evaluation.
>
>Fritz7 proves again that nodes per second mean nothing and shows better
>positional understanding than Hiarcs8.
>
>Uri

Hiarcs8 spent 47minutes in this position.
I am not sure if Qa5 is a better move, almost all program I used to analyze this
position is agreeing with hiarcs8, but they agains i didnt make it search for
along time.

Fritz 7 - Hiarcs 8
r3k2r/p2p2pp/bqp1pn2/2P5/1b2NP2/5K2/PP4PP/R1BQ1B1R b kq - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 6.02:

14...Nxe4 15.cxb6 Bxf1
  ²  (0.27)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
14...Nxe4 15.cxb6 Bxf1
  ±  (1.35)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
14...Nxe4 15.cxb6 Bxf1 16.Qxf1
  +-  (6.19)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
14...Bxc5 15.Bxa6
  +-  (4.88)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
14...Bxc5 15.Bxa6
  +-  (4.34)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 Bxf1 16.Nxd7
  ³  (-0.58)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 Bxf1 16.Nxd7
  ³  (-0.58)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 Bxf1 16.Nxd7
  ³  (-0.58)   Depth: 3/6   00:00:00
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 Bxf1 16.Nxe6 dxe6 17.Rxf1
  ³  (-0.48)   Depth: 4/8   00:00:00
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 0-0 16.Bxa6 Qb3+ 17.axb3
  =  (-0.23)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 0-0 16.Bxa6 Qb3+ 17.axb3
  ²  (0.27)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 Bxf1 16.Na4 Bxg2+ 17.Kxg2
  ²  (0.60)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 Bxf1 16.Na4 Qb4 17.Rxf1 Qe4+ 18.Kg3 0-0
  ²  (0.64)   Depth: 6/12   00:00:00
14...Qa5 15.Nxf6+ gxf6 16.Bxa6 Qxa6 17.Qf1 Qxf1+ 18.Rxf1 Bxc5
  ²  (0.63)   Depth: 6/12   00:00:00
14...Qa5 15.Nxf6+ gxf6 16.Bxa6 Qxa6 17.Qxd7+ Kxd7 18.Rd1+ Kc7 19.Rd7+ Kxd7
  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 6/12   00:00:00
14...Qa5 15.Nd6+ Kf8 16.Bxa6 Qxa6 17.Be3 Kg8 18.Rf1
  =  (0.09)   Depth: 6/12   00:00:00
14...Qa5 15.Nxf6+ gxf6 16.Bxa6 Qxa6 17.Be3 0-0 18.Qxd7 Rae8 19.Kf2
  ²  (0.34)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  76kN
14...Qa5 15.Nxf6+ gxf6 16.Bxa6 Qxa6 17.Qd6 Rg8 18.Rd1 0-0-0 19.Be3
  ²  (0.51)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  96kN
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 Bxf1 16.Na4 Qb4 17.Rxf1 0-0 18.g4 Rab8
  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:01  122kN
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 Bxf1 16.Be3 Bxg2+ 17.Kxg2 Nd5 18.Qd4 Nxe3+ 19.Qxe3 Qxb2+
20.Kh3
  ²  (0.39)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:01  159kN
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 Bxf1 16.Na4 Qb4 17.Rxf1 Kf8 18.Ke3 Qb6+ 19.Nxb6 Nd5+ 20.Nxd5
  ²  (0.64)   Depth: 8/16   00:00:02  294kN
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 Bxf1 16.Na4 Qb5 17.Rxf1 0-0 18.g4 d6
  ±  (0.72)   Depth: 8/16   00:00:02  366kN
14...Qa5 15.Nxf6+ gxf6 16.Bxa6 Qxa6 17.Qd6 Rg8 18.Qxc6 dxc6
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 8/16   00:00:02  403kN
14...Qa5 15.Nxf6+ gxf6 16.Bxa6 Qxa6 17.Qd6 Rg8 18.Rd1 0-0-0 19.g3 Qb5
  ²  (0.36)   Depth: 8/16   00:00:02  433kN
14...Qa5 15.Nxf6+ gxf6 16.Bxa6 Qxa6 17.Qd6 Qc4 18.Rd1 0-0-0 19.Be3 f5
  =  (0.18)   Depth: 8/16   00:00:03  478kN
14...Qa5 15.Nxf6+ gxf6 16.Bxa6 Qxa6 17.Qd6 Qc4 18.Rd1 0-0-0 19.Be3 f5 20.Kf2
Qxc5
  ²  (0.43)   Depth: 9/18   00:00:03  532kN
14...Qa5 15.Nxf6+ gxf6 16.Bxa6 Qxa6 17.Qd6 Qc4 18.Rd1 0-0-0 19.Be3 Rhg8 20.g4
  ²  (0.48)   Depth: 9/18   00:00:03  608kN
14...Qa5 15.Nxf6+ gxf6 16.Bxa6 Qxa6 17.Qd4 Qb5 18.Be3 0-0-0 19.a3 Ba5 20.b4 e5
21.Qd6
  ²  (0.44)   Depth: 10/20   00:00:06  1214kN
14...Qa5 15.Nd6+ Kf8 16.Bxa6 Qxa6 17.Be3 Nd5 18.Qd4 Kg8 19.Rhc1 Rb8 20.g3 Ba5
  ²  (0.61)   Depth: 11/22   00:00:17  3324kN
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 Bxf1 16.Na4 Bxg2+ 17.Kxg2 Qb4 18.Re1 0-0 19.Qd3 Qxe1
  ²  (0.60)   Depth: 11/22   00:00:20  3890kN
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 Bxf1 16.Na4 Bxg2+ 17.Kxg2 Qb4 18.Re1 0-0 19.Nc3 Rae8 20.Qa4
  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 11/22   00:00:25  4972kN
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 Bxf1 16.Na4 Bxg2+ 17.Kxg2 Qb4 18.Re1 0-0 19.Nc3 Rae8 20.Qd2
Qc5 21.Qf2
  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 12/24   00:00:46  9687kN
14...Qa5 15.Nd6+ Kf8 16.Bxa6 Qxa6 17.Be3 Nd5 18.Qd4 Kg8 19.Rhc1
  ²  (0.58)   Depth: 12/24   00:00:53  11202kN
14...Qa5 15.Nd6+ Kf8 16.Bxa6 Qxa6 17.Be3 Nd5 18.Qd4 Kg8 19.g3 Rf8 20.a3 Ba5
21.Rhd1 Rf6
  ²  (0.39)   Depth: 12/24   00:01:02  13028kN
14...Qa5 15.Nd6+ Kf8 16.Bxa6 Qxa6 17.Be3 Nd5 18.Qd4 Kg8 19.g3 Rf8 20.Rhd1 Nxe3
21.Qxe3 g5 22.Rf1 gxf4
  ²  (0.64)   Depth: 13/26   00:01:23  17547kN
14...Qa5 15.Nd6+ Kf8 16.Bxa6 Qxa6 17.Be3 Nd5 18.Qd4 Kg8 19.g3 Rf8 20.Rhd1 Qa5
21.Qxd5 exd5
  ²  (0.64)   Depth: 13/26   00:01:41  21266kN
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 Bxf1 16.Na4 Bxg2+ 17.Kxg2 Qb4 18.Re1 0-0 19.Nc3 Nd5 20.Nxd5
cxd5 21.h3
  ²  (0.63)   Depth: 13/26   00:01:58  24566kN
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 Bxf1 16.Na4 Bxg2+ 17.Kxg2 Qb4 18.Re1 0-0 19.Nc3 Nd5 20.Nxd5
cxd5 21.b3
  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 13/26   00:02:28  30264kN
14...Bxc5 15.Nxc5 Bxf1 16.Na4 Bxg2+ 17.Kxg2 Qb4 18.Re1 0-0 19.Nc3 Nd5 20.Nxd5
cxd5 21.Qd2 Rxf4
  ²  (0.54)   Depth: 14/28   00:04:46  58075kN

(Mahamood, home 06.06.2002)


also 33...Qd6  &&  21...a6 could be considered as the turning point of the game.

IMO in most of the games Fritz7 won simply by outserching hiarcs8.

pavs



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