Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 10:45:08 06/07/02
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On June 07, 2002 at 13:28:53, Frank Phillips wrote: >On June 07, 2002 at 13:12:53, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On June 07, 2002 at 12:18:22, Frank Phillips wrote: >> >>>If you had perfect information, why would you prefer to guess? >>> >>>The issue would appear to be speed of access rather than the tables themselves. >>>Is a 7GB RAM disc too far away? >> >>if we have 7 GB of ram then we will have the 6 men on disk slowing down >>access times. >> >>Of course i was very happy when the EGTBs arrived in the endgame. >>Now a few years later i see less and less importance of using them. >> >>OF COURSE I USE THEM, for the obvious reason that perfect information >>is always better than imperfect information. >> >>But it is hard facts that if i would have had in 1999 (februari) the >>tablebases, that i would have won paderborn ipccc1999 tournament. >> >>Chance the EGTBs make the difference between winning a tournament or now >>now in 2002 is way less. > >I may be misunderstanding your point, but you seem to be saying that EGTBs no >longer give an advantage because everyone is using them ... unless they are not >(as in ipccc 1999) when they are an advantage. Which would seem to make EGTB >useful. No what i said is that in past times engines cared shit to start a KRPKR endgame, so they lost. Nowadays they already smell a bit when it is won or not, so they don't start it. Also *without* EGTBs. > >Of course, I agree with your point about 6 man and speed of access. It would be >interesting to speculate on the speed of access disadvantage versus EGTB size. >Presumably as the number of men increase so does the room for error. > >I guess I also had humans in mind as the opponents rather than silicon.
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