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Subject: Re: The importance of tablebases with programs.. freeware vs commercial

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 18:13:56 06/07/02

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On June 07, 2002 at 20:59:14, Kevin Strickland wrote:

>On June 07, 2002 at 20:41:17, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On June 07, 2002 at 14:36:45, Kevin Strickland wrote:
>>
>>yes. checkout the games!
>>
>>against p.conners i would have won or drawn instead of lose.
>>against nimzo i could even get an EGTB win and against shredder
>>it would have won instead of gone to insane stupid endgame which
>>was a draw!
>>
>>i didn't even mention other games then!!
>>
>
>Ok here are the positions:
>
>Shredder - Diep
>
>8/8/5K2/3k3P/1p6/2pn4/P1R5/B5r1 w - - 0 49

you quote the wrong positions. go back a few moves!

please remember i was hitting big search depths in these days,
not hindered by intelligent evaluation i could search real deep
in endgame!

at world champs 1999 i searched in *any* endgame where i ran on the
quad about 20 ply.

>How at all could you have won this? This is where tbs would have started. You
>were lost.
>
>Nimzo98 - Diep
>
>8/6p1/4K2p/1Bk2P2/8/5n2/7P/8 b - - 0 45

take back a few moves!!

Bob at the time posted at CCC the win in 50 moves or so!!

>This is a draw.. whether you like it or not. Nimzo would have had to completely
>went into a hard drive freeze for you to do anything with this.
>
>Diep - P.Connors
>
>8/8/p7/4p3/pbP3k1/5bP1/P6P/2K2B2 w - - 0 60
>
>Again.. this is the FINAL position.. you lost.. no tbs even close..

go back a lot!

>So again can you please tell me how you would have WON the event if you can not
>gain any more points?

You are not representing the truth. You take positions too far.
perhap syou learn one day WHEN having TBs is good thing.

having TBs is good to prevent exchange TOWARDS drawn or lost endgames,
*moves* before they get on the board.

understand?



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