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Subject: Re: Poker programmers. Question re online real money poker strategy O/T

Author: Jason Williamson

Date: 23:39:49 06/08/02

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I know some VERY good poker players playing on a couple of servers.  They do
quite well because the majority of the players are well, bad.

Poker Servers also have various DRACONIAN ways of curbing cheaters, such as
looking for patterns in the way they do stuff with cards.  Remeber, when you
play you send them money to buy in, and if you want that money back you get a
cheque, so they pretty much have you by the balls.

Poker programs are supposedly quite weak atm, but I don't know too much about
them.

JW

On June 08, 2002 at 18:21:13, Hans van der Zijden wrote:

>On June 08, 2002 at 12:46:31, Michael a wrote:
>
>>People can make serious money playing poker online.
>>
>>Is there software that will simulate bestplay in realtime?
>>
>>It would not be harder to program than chess.
>>
>>I don't see evidence of such programs currently in use in real poker e-rooms
>
>
>I can't say I agree with you. I think you can only make little money playing
>poker online (if you play honest), because of three reasons:
>
>1. You can't see how other people behave. Sometimes you can tell if someone is
>bluffing or not by the way he behaves.
>
>2. I am pretty sure that you run into cheating players communicating with each
>other what cards they have over the phone or even in the same room.
>
>3. Players online might be more intelligent than players in a casino because at
>least they know how to operate a computer and therefore they might also be
>better in playing poker. I am not sure about this last assumption though,
>because I have seen idiots in both situations.
>
>I am not sure if there is a program that can play in real time, but if there is
>I am not afraid to play against it. I think creating a good pokerprogram is
>extremely difficult. There are so many factors to take into consideration. I had
>to choose between writing a chessprogram and a poker playing program. I thought
>chess was more easy and I am a lazy person so chess it was. I know Jonathan
>Schaefer (Chinook) wrote a pokerprogram that is supposed to be pretty good, but
>I don't know much about his program.
>
>Hans



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