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Subject: Re: position

Author: Will Singleton

Date: 05:31:29 06/09/02

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On June 09, 2002 at 01:55:59, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On June 09, 2002 at 01:00:30, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>You win.  I tested other engines on this, Yace, Pepeito, Leila, Beowulf, and
>>Sjeng.  Nothing close to your result.
>
>I don't get it. I thought the goal was to find Qc7. If Bc5 is
>enough, Sjeng takes only 6 seconds.
>

I used Sjeng 12L, which took 290 secs to score the draw.  You must have made a
few improvements.  The goal was to find Qc7 or something better, but it turns
out that there are a couple moves that return a draw score.

sjeng12L, amd1.6ghz:

22262 <first :  5     201    60    93857  Nxb2 Ra8 Qc7 Rc8 Bh2+ Kh1 Qd6
22312 <first :  6     171    64   108743  Nxb2 ??
22812 <first :  6     152   114   293080  Nxb2 Ra8 Kh6 Ra7 Qb6 Qh8+ Kg6 Ne7+
Bxe7 Rxe7
24345 <first :  7     134   268   836303  Nxb2 Ra8 g4 hxg4 Bxg4 Ra7 Qb6 Qxf7
Qxc6 Qxg7#
24865 <first :  8     104   318  1001431  Nxb2 ??
30834 <first :  8      94   916  2997945  Nxb2 Ra8 g4 Rd8 Qc7 Rc8 Qb6 Qe4+ Bg6
Qxg4
30834 <first :  8      94   916  2997945  Nxb2 Ra8 g4 Rd8 Qc7 Rc8 Qb6 Qe4+ Bg6
Qxg4
39266 <first :  9      85  1760  6018571  Nxb2 Ra8 g4 hxg4 Bxg4 Ra7 Qc8 Qxf7 Qg8
Rb7 Qxf7 Rxf7
52145 <first :  9      85  3047 10300807  Nxb2 Ra8 g4 hxg4 Bxg4 Ra7 Qc8 Qxf7 Qg8
Rb7 Qxf7 Rxf7
58784 <first : 10      55  3711 12542569  Nxb2 ??
126451 <first : 10    -141 10478 35334993  Nxb2 g4 Na4 gxh5 Bc5 c4 Nc3 cxb5 Qxb5
Re1 Qc4 Qe5
155403 <first : 10    -140 13374 45136232  Qc7 !
187289 <first : 10      11 16562 56020094  Qc7 Ra8 Nb6 Ra7 Qc8 Qxc8 Nxc8 Rb7 f6
Nd4 b4 cxb4
219335 <first : 10      11 19767 66500757  Qc7 Ra8 Nb6 Ra7 Qc8 Qxc8 Nxc8 Rb7 f6
Nd4 b4 cxb4 <Kg8>
312048 <first : 11       0 29036 97167005  Qc7 Ra8 Bc5 b4 Qf4 bxc5 Qc1+ Kh2 Qf4+
Kg1 <Qc1+> <Kh2> <Qf4+> <Kg1> <Qc1+> <Kh2> <Qf4+>


In your latest version, you latch on to Bc5 prior to going low on Nxb2.

>4Q3/1q3ppk/2Nb4/1p4pb/2n5/2P4P/1P3PP1/R5K1 b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Sjeng 12.14 c:
>
>1...Nxb2 2.Ra8
>  µ  (-0.80)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
>1...Nxb2 2.Ra7 Qb6
>  µ  (-0.82)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>1...Nxb2 2.Ra7 Qb6
>  µ  (-0.82)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>1...Nxb2 2.Ra7 Qb6 3.Qd7
>  ³  (-0.60)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
>1...Nxb2 2.Ra7 Qb6 3.Qd7
>  ³  (-0.60)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
>1...Nxb2 2.Ra8 Nd3 3.Qg8+ Kg6 4.Nd4
>  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 5/14   00:00:00
>1...Nxb2 2.Ra8 Nd3 3.Qg8+ Kg6 4.Nd4
>  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00
>1...Nxb2
>  ³  (-0.29)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00  125kN
>1...Nxb2 2.Ra8 Qc7 3.Qh8+ Kg6 4.Rc8 Qd7 5.f3
>  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 6/21   00:00:01  437kN
>1...Nxb2 2.Ra8 Qc7 3.Qh8+ Kg6 4.Rc8 Qd7 5.f3
>  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 6/21   00:00:01  500kN
>1...Nxb2 2.Ra8 g4 3.hxg4 Bxg4 4.Ra7 Qc8 5.Qxc8 Bxc8 6.Rxf7
>  =  (-0.04)   Depth: 7/21   00:00:01  786kN
>1...Nxb2 2.Ra8 g4 3.hxg4 Bxg4 4.Ra7 Qc8 5.Qxc8 Bxc8 6.Rxf7
>  =  (-0.04)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:03  1487kN
>1...Nxb2 2.Ra8 g4 3.Ra7 Qb6 4.hxg4 Bxg4 5.Rxf7 Nd3
>  =  (0.06)   Depth: 8/23   00:00:03  2166kN
>1...Bc5 2.Ra8 Qc7 3.Qh8+ Kg6 4.Rg8 Bxf2+ 5.Kxf2 Qf4+ 6.Kg1 Qc1+ 7.Kh2 Qf4+ 8.Kg1
>Qc1+ 9.Kh2 Qf4+ 10.Kg1
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8/24   00:00:06  3786kN
>1...Bc5 2.Ra8 Qc7 3.Qh8+ Kg6 4.Rg8 Bxf2+ 5.Kxf2 Qf4+ 6.Kg1 Qc1+ 7.Kh2 Qf4+ 8.Kg1
>Qc1+ 9.Kh2 Qf4+ 10.Kg1
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8/26   00:00:08  5666kN
>1...Bc5 2.Ra8 Qc7 3.Qh8+ Kg6 4.Rg8 Bxf2+ 5.Kxf2 Qf4+ 6.Kg1 Qc1+ 7.Kh2 Qf4+ 8.Kg1
>Qc1+ 9.Kh2 Qf4+ 10.Kg1
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9/26   00:00:12  8083kN
>1...Bc5 2.Ra8 Qc7 3.Qh8+ Kg6 4.Rg8 Bxf2+ 5.Kxf2 Qf4+ 6.Kg1 Qc1+ 7.Kh2 Qf4+ 8.Kg1
>Qc1+ 9.Kh2 Qf4+ 10.Kg1
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9/32   00:00:16  11216kN
>1...Bc5 2.Ra8 Qc7 3.Qh8+ Kg6 4.Rg8 f6 5.Rc8 Qf4 6.Qe8+ Kh6 7.Qh8+ Kg6 8.Qe8+ Kh6
>9.Qh8+ Kg6
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 10/32   00:00:30  20776kN
>1...Bc5 2.Ra8 Qc7 3.Qh8+ Kg6 4.Rg8 f6 5.Rc8 Qf4 6.Qe8+ Kh6 7.Qh8+ Kg6 8.Qe8+ Kh6
>9.Qh8+ Kg6
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 10/36   00:00:44  29982kN
>1...Bc5 2.Ra8 Qc7 3.Qh8+ Kg6 4.Rg8 f6 5.Rc8 Qf4 6.Qe8+ Kh6 7.Qh8+ Kg6 8.Qe8+ Kh6
>9.Qh8+ Kg6
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11/36   00:01:19  53367kN
>
>--
>GCP



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