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Subject: Re: Can any program see that this is a draw?

Author: John Merlino

Date: 15:54:14 06/10/02

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On June 10, 2002 at 14:57:55, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On June 10, 2002 at 14:10:33, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On June 10, 2002 at 03:55:48, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>
>>>I'm sure this has been covered before, but I'm curious if any program can tell
>>>right away that this position is a draw, and if not, why not? It took me but a
>>>few minutes to create a method for determining if this position was drawn or
>>>not. Is detecting this draw harder than I am anticipating, or is it simply a
>>>matter that there is no need for such draw detection?
>>>
>>>I tried it with Fritz and it scored about 0.5 for white after 6 minutes.
>>>
>>>[D]4b3/4k3/2p1p1p1/1pPpPpPp/pP1P1P1P/P2K4/3B4/8 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Russell
>>
>>Chessmaster 9000 knows:
>
>How can you tell?
>I also get an equal score in my prog,
>but I know it has nothing to do with any draw recognition.
>
>depth=36 +0.03 1.Bc1 Kf8 2.Kc2 Bd7 3.Bd2 Kg8 4.Kb1 Bc8 5.Bc3 Bd7 6.Bd2 Bc8 7.Bc3
>Bd7 8.Ka1 Bc8 9.Bd2 Bd7 10.Bc3 Bc8 11.Bd2 Bd7 12.Bc1 Be8 13.Kb1 Bd7 14.Be3 Bc8
>15.Kb2 Bd7 16.Kb1 Kg7

I didn't say (because I don't know) that there is any specific draw recognition
code in The King to handle this. However, the score shows that it believes that
it is "a draw" -- certainly more so than some other engines do.

jm



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