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Subject: Re: Here is the FEN

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:13:26 06/13/02

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On June 13, 2002 at 14:58:45, Robert Henry Durrett wrote:

>On June 13, 2002 at 13:05:47, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 13, 2002 at 11:52:30, Benny Antonsson wrote:
>>
>>>[D]8/3k4/8/8/3PK3/8/8/8 w - - 0 1
>>
>>
>>OK... White to move wins by moving the king in front of the pawn
>>and assuming the opposition.  Any other white move draws.  Unfortunately,
>>the opposition doesn't help you a bit if your opponent can "pass" (which is
>>what the null-move allows).
>
>Pardon my French, but doesn't this make using "null-move" kinda dumb?????????
>
>Bob D.
>

You got it.

:)

this is what happens in zugzwang positions and it is why null-move isn't
used in pawn-only endings.  Double-null-move will fix this, but with so many
zugzwang positions in such cases, it is simply extra overhead...



>>
>>IE I play Kd5, which wins, but you pass, and now _you_ have the
>>opposition and the game is a draw.  Black is in zugzwang because as it
>>sits after white plays Kd5, the game is a draw, but as soon as black moves
>>its king, no matter where it moves to, the game is lost.  But null-move
>>allows it to not move and hold the draw, greatly confusing the search...



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