Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Yes, this is a major improvement of Comet, Ulrich please explain.

Author: Bas Hamstra

Date: 15:39:57 06/13/02

Go up one level in this thread


On June 13, 2002 at 17:59:09, Peter Berger wrote:

>On June 13, 2002 at 17:49:26, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>
>>On June 13, 2002 at 17:12:06, Peter Berger wrote:
>>
>>>On June 13, 2002 at 16:01:37, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Of course there are a lot. Differences between stronger engines are very small,
>>>>see Leiden 2002. TheKing had slightly outdated hardware, and bang, it sinks to
>>>>the middle of the field. And numbers 1 and 2 in Leiden ran at significantly
>>>>faster hardware than the rest, coincidence? Give a strong amateur 2x time
>>>>advantage and the pro's will lose the last bit of advantage they have. Not many
>>>>amateurs can beat TigerPalm? Are you kidding? How about 30? Heck, in Leiden
>>>>Comet rolled 3 pro's up in a ball while NOT being on faster hardware: GT and
>>>>TheKing and Shredder :-)
>>>>
>>>>Best regards,
>>>>Bas.
>>>
>>>Uri is usually very careful with his wording ;). He said that there are few
>>>programs that can play on a 486 computer and beat Chess Tiger on the Palm.
>>>
>>>Afaik there aren't 30 amateurs who could do that, or do you disagree?
>>>
>>>Kind regards,
>>>Peter
>>
>>Well, let's say 20, and then I can list em for you :-)
>>
>>Yace, Crafty, Ferret, Callisto, Nightmare, SpiderChess, Monsoon, Bringer,
>>Nejmet, Tao, Insomniac, Comet, Patzer, Xinix, IsiChess, Anmon, GLC, Quark,
>>Queen, Amy, Amyan, Pharaon, Pepito. I am sure I forgot a few.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Bas.
>
>
>Of the above I have only tested a special version of Yace in a match against
>Chess Tiger and it failed - Comet won its match. I also tried Bringer but it
>won't run on that platform .
>
>I am willing to test Tao if you think I am wrong if you can provide a version
>that will run on a 486 DX 50 with 4 MB RAM .

Are you saying that Yace 486/50 lost a match against TigerPalm? What hardware is
that Palm exactly? I suspected the 486 being at least 2x faster, otherwise the
whole thing is a non-issue anyway. And if Tiger can use significantly bigger
hashtables on that Palm than the 486 engine, that is also a big factor to take
into consideration. I think Tao 5.0 should run on that hardware, if you want to
try, if you run it in textmode (Winboard would steal a couple of mb's hash).
"show" prints a board and e2e4 e8g8 is the move format.

Best regards,
Bas.







This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.