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Subject: Re: Yes, this is a major improvement of Comet, Ulrich please explain.

Author: Ulrich Tuerke

Date: 00:24:44 06/14/02

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On June 13, 2002 at 18:39:57, Bas Hamstra wrote:

>On June 13, 2002 at 17:59:09, Peter Berger wrote:
>
>>On June 13, 2002 at 17:49:26, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>>
>>>On June 13, 2002 at 17:12:06, Peter Berger wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 13, 2002 at 16:01:37, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Of course there are a lot. Differences between stronger engines are very small,
>>>>>see Leiden 2002. TheKing had slightly outdated hardware, and bang, it sinks to
>>>>>the middle of the field. And numbers 1 and 2 in Leiden ran at significantly
>>>>>faster hardware than the rest, coincidence? Give a strong amateur 2x time
>>>>>advantage and the pro's will lose the last bit of advantage they have. Not many
>>>>>amateurs can beat TigerPalm? Are you kidding? How about 30? Heck, in Leiden
>>>>>Comet rolled 3 pro's up in a ball while NOT being on faster hardware: GT and
>>>>>TheKing and Shredder :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Best regards,
>>>>>Bas.
>>>>
>>>>Uri is usually very careful with his wording ;). He said that there are few
>>>>programs that can play on a 486 computer and beat Chess Tiger on the Palm.
>>>>
>>>>Afaik there aren't 30 amateurs who could do that, or do you disagree?
>>>>
>>>>Kind regards,
>>>>Peter
>>>
>>>Well, let's say 20, and then I can list em for you :-)
>>>
>>>Yace, Crafty, Ferret, Callisto, Nightmare, SpiderChess, Monsoon, Bringer,
>>>Nejmet, Tao, Insomniac, Comet, Patzer, Xinix, IsiChess, Anmon, GLC, Quark,
>>>Queen, Amy, Amyan, Pharaon, Pepito. I am sure I forgot a few.
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>Bas.
>>
>>
>>Of the above I have only tested a special version of Yace in a match against
>>Chess Tiger and it failed - Comet won its match. I also tried Bringer but it
>>won't run on that platform .
>>
>>I am willing to test Tao if you think I am wrong if you can provide a version
>>that will run on a 486 DX 50 with 4 MB RAM .
>
>Are you saying that Yace 486/50 lost a match against TigerPalm? What hardware is
>that Palm exactly? I suspected the 486 being at least 2x faster, otherwise the
>whole thing is a non-issue anyway. And if Tiger can use significantly bigger
>hashtables on that Palm than the 486 engine, that is also a big factor to take
>into consideration. I think Tao 5.0 should run on that hardware, if you want to
>try, if you run it in textmode (Winboard would steal a couple of mb's hash).
>"show" prints a board and e2e4 e8g8 is the move format.
>
>Best regards,
>Bas.

Hi Bas,

I think that the problem on Peter's hardware is also the operating system. He'd
need a DOS or WIN-16 executable.
Right, Peter ?

Uli



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