Author: Ulrich Tuerke
Date: 00:24:44 06/14/02
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On June 13, 2002 at 18:39:57, Bas Hamstra wrote: >On June 13, 2002 at 17:59:09, Peter Berger wrote: > >>On June 13, 2002 at 17:49:26, Bas Hamstra wrote: >> >>>On June 13, 2002 at 17:12:06, Peter Berger wrote: >>> >>>>On June 13, 2002 at 16:01:37, Bas Hamstra wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Of course there are a lot. Differences between stronger engines are very small, >>>>>see Leiden 2002. TheKing had slightly outdated hardware, and bang, it sinks to >>>>>the middle of the field. And numbers 1 and 2 in Leiden ran at significantly >>>>>faster hardware than the rest, coincidence? Give a strong amateur 2x time >>>>>advantage and the pro's will lose the last bit of advantage they have. Not many >>>>>amateurs can beat TigerPalm? Are you kidding? How about 30? Heck, in Leiden >>>>>Comet rolled 3 pro's up in a ball while NOT being on faster hardware: GT and >>>>>TheKing and Shredder :-) >>>>> >>>>>Best regards, >>>>>Bas. >>>> >>>>Uri is usually very careful with his wording ;). He said that there are few >>>>programs that can play on a 486 computer and beat Chess Tiger on the Palm. >>>> >>>>Afaik there aren't 30 amateurs who could do that, or do you disagree? >>>> >>>>Kind regards, >>>>Peter >>> >>>Well, let's say 20, and then I can list em for you :-) >>> >>>Yace, Crafty, Ferret, Callisto, Nightmare, SpiderChess, Monsoon, Bringer, >>>Nejmet, Tao, Insomniac, Comet, Patzer, Xinix, IsiChess, Anmon, GLC, Quark, >>>Queen, Amy, Amyan, Pharaon, Pepito. I am sure I forgot a few. >>> >>>Best regards, >>>Bas. >> >> >>Of the above I have only tested a special version of Yace in a match against >>Chess Tiger and it failed - Comet won its match. I also tried Bringer but it >>won't run on that platform . >> >>I am willing to test Tao if you think I am wrong if you can provide a version >>that will run on a 486 DX 50 with 4 MB RAM . > >Are you saying that Yace 486/50 lost a match against TigerPalm? What hardware is >that Palm exactly? I suspected the 486 being at least 2x faster, otherwise the >whole thing is a non-issue anyway. And if Tiger can use significantly bigger >hashtables on that Palm than the 486 engine, that is also a big factor to take >into consideration. I think Tao 5.0 should run on that hardware, if you want to >try, if you run it in textmode (Winboard would steal a couple of mb's hash). >"show" prints a board and e2e4 e8g8 is the move format. > >Best regards, >Bas. Hi Bas, I think that the problem on Peter's hardware is also the operating system. He'd need a DOS or WIN-16 executable. Right, Peter ? Uli
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