Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 00:33:52 08/02/98
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On August 01, 1998 at 08:34:15, blass uri wrote: >The reason I believe Fritz5 has better general position understanding >than Junior4.6 is that Fritz5 had better results when mark young gave it more >time. Junior plays very okish games. This remembers me on how rebel plays. Many moves Junior or Rebel play, I would have played too. The moves they play look NORMAL. Human like. They play very good. It can be that Fritz kills Junior in longer time controls. I am sure fritz-tree is more effective than junior's tree is. Juniors biggest problem is in my opinion the horizont thing. It generates very likely horizont ideas into its main-lines. When analyzing with junior on a position, you often see that it moves a problem over the horizont by creating an interesting , very artistique bluff mainline, that does work within the range of the search, but does not work out of it. I guess the reaso for this is the way junior searcher, in opposite to the way fritz searches. Fritz outsearches junior at longer time controls. Yes. But i like the way junior plays. And I know other programmers have found the same. Junior plays homogen, as if the whole game is ONE BODY, not this up and down chess, it plays elegant. >I am not sure about Junior5 and I should do another test >I think to let Junior5 play against fritz5 all the positions after the 10th move >of black in the match rebel-anand and to see what is the result. I guess you should try to play fritz from the 10th moves, against junior, but also against Hiarcs. hiarcs would not allow fritz to play POSITIONAL ! maybe fritz outsearches hiarcs, but fritz will not impress hiarcs with positional stuff... Yes, the anand matches , especially the 2 tournament games could be interesting to see played by two computers. Why not use the 2 40/120 games and replay them with computers ?! >This will give an indication which program is better in general position >understanding. If Junior's result improves with time than Junior has better >positional understanding. >I hope Junior will win this match I like that you have not seen my statements as a personal attack !! I see your posts very constructive. I hope we can discuss things later... Try the anand-match games instead of the nunn-stuff. >Uri >understanding Thorsten apologizing for his overreaction !
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