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Subject: Re: 12.Nxg5! seems OK

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 21:16:36 06/16/02

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On June 16, 2002 at 23:38:38, Uri Blass wrote:

>On June 16, 2002 at 14:47:06, Telmo Escobar wrote:
>
>> I examined this game with several CB engines and all of them, in due time,
>>evaluate 12.Nxg5! as winning for White. Below are the relevant lines.
>> Main one, in my view, is 12.Nxg5 hxg5 13.Bxg5 Nbd7 14.Qf3 a6 15.Qg3 Kf8 -as
>>played in the game- and now 16.f4!
>
>Some analysis of Movei(p200 128 Mbytes after 16.f4)
>
>10 -11 171868 45737870 c7b8 e4e5 d6e5 a1e1 d8b6 g5h6 f8e7 f4e5 e7d8 d5d6 e8g8
>11 -54 435241 110025087 c7b8 e4e5 d6e5 a1e1 d8b6 f4e5 f6h5 d5d6 h5g3 f1f7 f8g8
>f7d7 e8e6 c4e6 g8h8 h2g3 c8d7 e6d7 b6b2
>11 -54 566140 145189288 c7b8 e4e5 d6e5 a1e1 d8b6 f4e5 f6h5 d5d6 h5g3 f1f7 f8g8
>f7d7 e8e6 c4e6 g8h8 h2g3 c8d7 e6d7 b6b2
>12 -153 805022 211276281 c7b8 e4e5 d6e5 a1e1 b7b5 g5h6 f8e7 d5d6 e7d6 f4e5 e8e5
>f1f6 d7f6 e1e5 d6c6 g3f3 c6b6 c4f7 b8e5 f3a8
>12 -152 1065835 283549797 a8a7
>12 -150 1263166 335461482 a8a7 e4e5 d6e5 a1e1 b7b5 g5h6 f8e7 f4e5 d7e5 f1f6 e7d7
>f6f7 e5f7 g3g4 d7d6 g4g6 c8e6 e1e6
>12 -150 1469994 393603511 a8a7 e4e5 d6e5 a1e1 b7b5 g5h6 f8e7 f4e5 d7e5 f1f6 e7d7
>f6f7 e5f7 g3g4 d7d6 g4g6 c8e6 e1e6
>
>
>Movei does not like b5 and prefers Ra7 but clearly does not like black's
>position.
>
>Movei agreed with the previous moves and gave a small advantage for black so it
>is clear that it saw the tactics.
>
>Uri

I believe that this position exploits the fact that *most* programmers give a
bonus for captures.

My program (which I just recently started working on again) has NO positional
knowledge, and is strictly based on piece value.  It will not look at the
capture.  If I give a normal, small bonus for a capture, it chooses the
capture/sac.

The difference between the two is about .15 pawns.  Which, if I give a .5 pawn
bonus for a capture, is enough to cover the spread.

In all honestly, I don't know for sure if it's a *good* move (the capture/sac).
But IMO, it is not the best move.



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