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Subject: Re: Fritz5 missed a win against Chesstiger in the wmcc in paris

Author: Hans Christian Lykke

Date: 09:59:51 08/02/98

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>
>I agree. Where does Fritz get the nerve to out search the other programs, while
>the other computers impress me with their very pretty and elegant play? I mean
>the other top programs like Chess system Tal are much better programs. I can
>tell by the way they play also. All Fritz does is move aimlessly around the
>board. It does not have a clue. And I don’t care if grandmaster’s say you must
>first have a positional advantage, then only then do you look for a combination,
>because then it must exist. This is total bunk. I know that if I played Garry
>Kasparov, and I just made random moves, I know I could luck out and beat
>Kasparov. This is all that Fritz does. I mean Fritz plays ugly chess. I don’t
>know how many games I have seen fritz play where it starts moving aimlessly
>round the board, as Fritz is prone to do, while the other program has built up
>this very pretty and elegant position. Then Fritz out of shear stupidity starts
>losing pawn or two. I mean it just gives the other program a pawn for no reason!
>And out of shear luck Fritz starts winning the game. I can’t count how many
>times I have seen fritz do this. This is not how chess is played, not if you
>want to impress me. I think we should repeat again what Moritz told us, For all
>those god dame bean counter out there. Rebel 10 playing on a P 90 kicked the
>shit out of Fritz 5 playing on a P II 400 by the score of 10-0 in favor of Rebel
>10. Take that you god dame bean counters, and stick it up your pipe and smoke
>it.


Well I don´t smoke so here is the result of my games played with 40/2

Fritz 5 P200MMX - Rebel 9(not 10 I know, but anyway) P90  28 - 12

Venlig hilsen

Hans Chr.


>
>Keep up the good fight.
>
>Best Regards
>
>Evil-Mark.
>




>
>>>I am not sure about Junior5 and I should do another test
>>>I think to let Junior5 play against fritz5 all the positions after the 10th move
>>>of black in the match rebel-anand and to see what is the result.
>>
>>I guess you should try to play fritz from the 10th moves, against junior, but
>>also against Hiarcs. hiarcs would not allow fritz to play POSITIONAL !
>>maybe fritz outsearches hiarcs, but fritz will not impress hiarcs with
>>positional stuff...
>>
>>Yes, the anand matches , especially the 2 tournament games could be interesting
>>to see played by two computers. Why not use the 2 40/120 games and replay them
>>with computers ?!
>>
>>>This will give an indication which program is better in general position
>>>understanding. If Junior's result improves with time than Junior has better
>>>positional understanding.
>>>I hope Junior will win this match
>>
>>I like that you have not seen my statements as a personal attack !!
>>
>>I see your posts very constructive.  I hope we can discuss things later...
>>
>>Try the anand-match games instead of the nunn-stuff.
>>
>>>Uri
>>>understanding
>>
>>Thorsten
>>apologizing for his overreaction !



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