Author: Robert Henry Durrett
Date: 05:12:38 06/18/02
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On June 18, 2002 at 04:29:48, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >On June 17, 2002 at 20:13:26, Robert Henry Durrett wrote: > >> >>I recently contacted Chessbase [info@chessbase.com] and received an email >>response saying that they will soon provide the information I requested, and >>more, about the computer. It will appear on their Chessbase News webpage. >> >>In the meantime, it's not too late to speculate! >> >>While discussing the computer [for the Kramnik match] with my son, who is here >>at my house for a visit, he noted that "there are plenty of 64-bit 64-processor >>computers running under UNIX." When pressed for details, he could not give me >>any because he does not use such "beasts" in his job. Maybe someone here is >>more familiar with this? >> >>The commercial version of Fritz runs on PCs that have Windows operating systems >>simply because the customers want to put Fritz on their home PCs, which run >>under Windows. >> >>But is there any reason, or LAW, that says that the computer they will use for >>the Kramnik match cannot run under UNIX? >> >>Essentially the same situation applies for word length. The Fritz customers >>have 32-bit computers, so Fritz is designed to run on those 32-bit computers. >> >>But is there any reason, or LAW, that says that the computer they will use for >>the Kramnik match cannot be a 64-bit computer? i.e. have a 64-bit deep fritz >>running under UNIX? >> >>If so, do any of the "UNIX-types" here at ICD/CCC know how fast the processors >>could be in that case? Which processors would they use? >> >>What do you think? Is an 8-processor 64-bit computer running under UNIX a >>possibility for the Deep Fritz versus Kramnik October 2002 match? >> >>Bob D. > > >Why unix ? The chessbase team should use unix ??? there's a 64 bits windows and >they work with windows for a while now ... Because my perusal of the Intel, AMD, and Microsoft web pages gave me the impression that "it just wasn't in the cards" for Windows at this time. Perhaps others here can look at their websites and get more or better information. The quad processor Bob Hyatt uses for Crafty has extremely slow processors. Since multiprocessor computers are, reportedly, available under UNIX [not LINIX], then this is the only way I see for a FAST 8-processor computer by mid-August [when Kramnik is to get one to play with]. QUESTION: Is there any driving force that mandates that the computer to be used for the match must be a PC? > >I've seen Mathias Feist on the chessbase server about 10 days ago and ask him >about the hardware for the match, he responded that there is nothing decided yet >... Mathias was probably sworn to secrecy. > >IMHO the delay is short now (3 month) and there's holiday in between > >The efficient 64 bits cpu (hammer from AMD and Itanium2 from Intel) are not out True. That is part of the problem. The other Intel processors, Pentium and Xeon, can only be used as single-processor or dual-processor motherboards. There used to be a DEC Alpha but DEC went belly-up. > >The best is to hope a big sponsorship from Amd or Intel (these new 8 ways >hardware will be very expensive !!!) to get a RELIABLE computer next month (??); I find it hard to believe that those negotiations have not already been completed. Not everybody will agree, but I suspect that the Deep Fritz to be used for the match has already been optimized for the chosen computer. >and if intel feels good to be the successor of DeeperBlue, why not a 32 ways >Itanium2 !!?? The Fritz people have already advertized that the computer will use eight processors. Bob D.
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