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Subject: Re: Computer for Kramnik Match: 64-bit Deep Fritz for Unix?

Author: Robert Henry Durrett

Date: 05:24:47 06/18/02

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On June 17, 2002 at 23:54:37, Slater Wold wrote:

>On June 17, 2002 at 20:13:26, Robert Henry Durrett wrote:
>
>>
>>I recently contacted Chessbase [info@chessbase.com] and received an email
>>response saying that they will soon provide the information I requested, and
>>more, about the computer.  It will appear on their Chessbase News webpage.
>>
>>In the meantime, it's not too late to speculate!
>>
>>While discussing the computer [for the Kramnik match] with my son, who is here
>>at my house for a visit, he noted that "there are plenty of 64-bit 64-processor
>>computers running under UNIX."  When pressed for details, he could not give me
>>any because he does not use such "beasts" in his job.  Maybe someone here is
>>more familiar with this?
>>
>>The commercial version of Fritz runs on PCs that have Windows operating systems
>>simply because the customers want to put Fritz on their home PCs, which run
>>under Windows.
>>
>>But is there any reason, or LAW, that says that the computer they will use for
>>the Kramnik match cannot run under UNIX?
>>
>>Essentially the same situation applies for word length.  The Fritz customers
>>have 32-bit computers, so Fritz is designed to run on those 32-bit computers.
>>
>>But is there any reason, or LAW, that says that the computer they will use for
>>the Kramnik match cannot be a 64-bit computer?  i.e. have a 64-bit deep fritz
>>running under UNIX?
>>
>>If so, do any of the "UNIX-types" here at ICD/CCC know how fast the processors
>>could be in that case?  Which processors would they use?
>>
>>What do you think?  Is an 8-processor 64-bit computer running under UNIX a
>>possibility for the Deep Fritz versus Kramnik October 2002 match?
>>
>>Bob D.
>
>I agree with Dann.  There's not a snowflakes chance in hell Chessbase would be
>stupid enough to go against Kramnik on a Linux computer.  (Which does have a
>64-bit OS.)
>
>Why?  Simple!
>
>If they decided "Hey!  We can get some serious speedups using this 64 CPU with
>Linux!  We'd have a better chance at winning!" then not ONLY do they have to
>sell Fritz, they also have to sell Linux.
>
>Linux is a damn fine OS.  There is absolutly nothing at all wrong with it.  But
>it is *FAR* from the standard OS of the common computer user.
>
>Also, 64 bit CPUs are NOT common.  Most people don't have $2k to go spend on a
>PC, let alone a single CPU.  Besides, a computer running dual, quad, i2 Pentium
>CPUs is NOT a PC.  It's a super-computer.  I believe the goal at hand, is
>beating Kramnik with a computer that most people can at least "relate" to.  I
>can "relate" to an 8-way Xeon.  I cannot "relate" to an 8-way i2 box.
>
>They want people to see this computer, (no matter what it may be) running the
>same OS that they use everyday, beat this Super-GM.  They don't want people
>saying, "Sure, it won.  But what the hell is Linux?!"

"The Fritz guys" have already advertised that the computer to be used for the
match will be more powerful than Deep Blue.  Kramnik said that too.  I think
they are somewhat obligated, or at least that's what I want.

Bob D.



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