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Subject: Re: Computer for Kramnik Match: 64-bit Deep Fritz for Unix?

Author: pavel

Date: 09:58:49 06/18/02

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On June 18, 2002 at 12:38:51, Robert Henry Durrett wrote:

>On June 18, 2002 at 11:20:13, pavel wrote:
>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>why bother, when you can use a windows OS on these platforms?
>>>>besides it is clear that the curent fastest 64bit processor is not faster than
>>>>the current fastest 32 bit.
>>>
>>>This has been discussed in other threads.  The 64 bit processor may be able to
>>>do more "useful work" in a single clock cycle than the current 32 bit processors
>>>can do, depending on the design of the processor.  Clock rate is not a true
>>>indication of the amount of useful work that can be done in a given amount of
>>>time.  In other words, a 64 bit processor, if properly utilized by the
>>>programmer, may be preferable over a 32 bit processor with a faster clock rate.
>>>We have different KINDS of processors to consider, too.
>>>
>>
>>I know that, but still the fastest available 64bit processor with the fastest
>>available proccessor speed (perhaps 1ghz) is not yet faster than the fastest
>>available 32bit processor at the fastest available clock speed (2.5ghz by intel
>>or 2100+ by AMD).
>>
>>That is also aplicable for chess programs.
>>so there is no point of using 64bit processor because it is not yet faster, let
>>alone the other complications.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>Even if they want to use 64bit, they can use windows, no need to get UNIX, or
>>>>port it on UNIX.
>>>
>>>Again, "discussed already in other threads."  Whether or not there is a need
>>>depends on availability of the necessary hardware, including boards.  The
>>>required availability is in doubt.  It is not clear to me that the necessary
>>>hardware is available for a Windows implementation.
>>
>>Yes there is a windows2000 64bit version already available.
>
>My understanding was that no version of Windows would work on an 8-processor
>computer at this time.  The "Windows XP Professional, 64-bit Edition," for
>example, is currently good only for dual computers [as of earlier this year].  I
>am not sure if this has changed recently, however.  I cannot say about Windows
>2000.  Are you absolutely SURE it would work on an 8-processor computer?
>
>I know Microsoft advertises that they will support the Itanium line of Intel
>processors, so it would just be a matter of time before a 64-bit version of
>Windows would be available for 8-processor Itanium [Madison] computers.  But
>that's not till next Spring.
>
>Bob D.

Windowsxp is not a server standard OS yet. I dont know anyone who is using
Windowsxp for servers.
One would expect a 64bit processors to be used only for server side work mostly.
Windows2000 Adv. is currently the server standard from MS.

Mckinley was being sold with win2k pre-installed. I dont know if win2k supports
8processor system (why shouldnt it?), but than again, we dont have that type of
system existing currently to support.

So we dont even have a 8-processor system yet for Chessbase to use :)


cheers,
pavs



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