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Subject: Re: Computer for Kramnik Match: 64-bit Deep Fritz for Unix?

Author: Eugene Nalimov

Date: 10:21:02 06/18/02

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Windows 2000 Datacenter Server supports up to 32 processors. Take a look at
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/datacenter/evaluation/business/overview/default.asp

You can buy such a system from Unisys.
http://www.unisys.com/products/es7000__servers/index.htm

Of course such system will cost you arm and leg...

Regards,
Eugene

On June 18, 2002 at 12:58:49, pavel wrote:

>On June 18, 2002 at 12:38:51, Robert Henry Durrett wrote:
>
>>On June 18, 2002 at 11:20:13, pavel wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>why bother, when you can use a windows OS on these platforms?
>>>>>besides it is clear that the curent fastest 64bit processor is not faster than
>>>>>the current fastest 32 bit.
>>>>
>>>>This has been discussed in other threads.  The 64 bit processor may be able to
>>>>do more "useful work" in a single clock cycle than the current 32 bit processors
>>>>can do, depending on the design of the processor.  Clock rate is not a true
>>>>indication of the amount of useful work that can be done in a given amount of
>>>>time.  In other words, a 64 bit processor, if properly utilized by the
>>>>programmer, may be preferable over a 32 bit processor with a faster clock rate.
>>>>We have different KINDS of processors to consider, too.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I know that, but still the fastest available 64bit processor with the fastest
>>>available proccessor speed (perhaps 1ghz) is not yet faster than the fastest
>>>available 32bit processor at the fastest available clock speed (2.5ghz by intel
>>>or 2100+ by AMD).
>>>
>>>That is also aplicable for chess programs.
>>>so there is no point of using 64bit processor because it is not yet faster, let
>>>alone the other complications.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Even if they want to use 64bit, they can use windows, no need to get UNIX, or
>>>>>port it on UNIX.
>>>>
>>>>Again, "discussed already in other threads."  Whether or not there is a need
>>>>depends on availability of the necessary hardware, including boards.  The
>>>>required availability is in doubt.  It is not clear to me that the necessary
>>>>hardware is available for a Windows implementation.
>>>
>>>Yes there is a windows2000 64bit version already available.
>>
>>My understanding was that no version of Windows would work on an 8-processor
>>computer at this time.  The "Windows XP Professional, 64-bit Edition," for
>>example, is currently good only for dual computers [as of earlier this year].  I
>>am not sure if this has changed recently, however.  I cannot say about Windows
>>2000.  Are you absolutely SURE it would work on an 8-processor computer?
>>
>>I know Microsoft advertises that they will support the Itanium line of Intel
>>processors, so it would just be a matter of time before a 64-bit version of
>>Windows would be available for 8-processor Itanium [Madison] computers.  But
>>that's not till next Spring.
>>
>>Bob D.
>
>Windowsxp is not a server standard OS yet. I dont know anyone who is using
>Windowsxp for servers.
>One would expect a 64bit processors to be used only for server side work mostly.
>Windows2000 Adv. is currently the server standard from MS.
>
>Mckinley was being sold with win2k pre-installed. I dont know if win2k supports
>8processor system (why shouldnt it?), but than again, we dont have that type of
>system existing currently to support.
>
>So we dont even have a 8-processor system yet for Chessbase to use :)
>
>
>cheers,
>pavs



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