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Subject: Re: 64 bits

Author: Eugene Nalimov

Date: 11:25:17 06/20/02

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Tom,

Bob pointed out that fastest CPUs for Crafty are 64-bit CPUs. Right now it is
Itanium2, some time ago it was Alpha.

As you pointed out that not necessarily means that 64-bit CPUs are good for
Crafty because of the 64-bit data path, but there are good chances that 64-bit
data path helps. The question is how much. Unfortunately, experiment you
suggested is flawed, as I wrote in one of my recent postings, and I don't see
another quick way to answer the question. My "gut feeling" is ~10%.

Eugene

On June 20, 2002 at 13:59:53, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On June 20, 2002 at 11:46:21, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>You are saying "64 bits won't help 99% of the applications and so they are
>>really no faster."  I am saying "64 bits definitely helps Crafty which means
>>for chess there _is_ a potential benefit for them."
>
>I said nothing of the sort and you have yet to indicate that 64 bits helps
>Crafty. You named two examples of 64-bit chips that run Crafty fast. I can name
>more examples of 64-bit chips that run Crafty slow. So that must mean that
>64-bit chips hurt Crafty, except in some corner cases, right?
>
>Here we have a situation where an indicator (Crafty's performance) changes when
>you change two variables (datapath width and THE ENTIRE REST OF THE CHIP).
>Anybody who was paying attention during 6th grade science class could tell you
>that you can't draw conclusions from this data, but apparently this is not a
>prerequisite for computer "science" professors in Alabama.
>
>-Tom



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