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Subject: Re: Is there no future for Dedicated Chess-playing Machines?

Author: Randall Jouett

Date: 11:11:58 06/21/02

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Howdy Dann,

On June 20, 2002 at 15:04:46, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On June 20, 2002 at 14:50:09, Robert Henry Durrett wrote:
>
>>On June 20, 2002 at 14:44:46, Osorio Meirelles wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>  How much more speed could we have than a PC chip, if there was a
>>>  hardware specifically designed to play chess ?
>>>
>>>  Wouldn't this make an extreemly powerfull dedicated machine ?
>>>
>>>  How much does it cost do develop such a Chip ?
>>
>>
>>Multiprocessor, 64-bit [at least], and expensive.  But, how much are REAL chess
>>nuts willing to pay?
>
>That question is irrelevant.  There are probably one or two people who would
>play 1 million dollars for a machine that would beat Kasparov.  But it would
>cost 10 million to develop it.
>
>The real question is:
>"How much are the broad masses willing to play for the world's strongest chess
>machine?"
>
>The answer is "Not much."
>
>People balk at the cost of ChessMaster!  CHESSMASTER -- for crying out loud.
>They practically give it away.  I have seen it online somewhere for $13.  You
>can walk into any computer department that sells software and get it for $30.
>And people whine about that cost.
>
>You might sell computer boards with Hsu's chip on them for $2000, but to how
>many people?  I suspect that not one in ten CCC users would buy it, which means
>that not one in one million of your average citizen would do so.
>
>You have to think about total cost of development compared to total return on
>investment.
>
>That is the real problem and it is also the reason why we don't all have a copy
>of the Hsu/Campbell chess machine buzzing away on our desk right now.

I agree with all of these remarks 100%, which leads me to a question:


Why haven't we seen a Beowulf-clustering program developed by a group
of folks on the Intenet yet? I mean, I'm sure most of us are familiar
with NetHack and the like, which was developed by various net users.
Why not a NetChess that uses clustering? With a setup like this,
it would seem that you'd probably gain 200 ELO points or something :^).


Seriously, I'd imagine that companies such as Red Hat and the like
would be more than happy to sponsor a setup like this in the WCCC.
Mainly, I guess they'd pay for the phone time to connect to the
cluster, because lugging a system like this to a tournament would
be a major pain. OTOH, if each member of the NetChess team
(which could be numerous) brought along a machine or two to the
tournament, then maybe it wouldn't be all that bad.


IMHO, a setup like this would totally dominate the WCCC. OTOH,
what the heck do I know? :^)

Randall




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