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Subject: Re: Composed Problems Useful as Test Positions?

Author: John Merlino

Date: 11:53:44 06/21/02

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On June 21, 2002 at 11:27:40, Art Basham wrote:

>Hi..
>For the most part,
>I think they are the best kind of test positions available to us!
>
>Example, this mate in 10...
>
>[D]8/8/4k3/2K1N1B1/5Pp1/8/2B2P1p/6n1 w - -
>
>After all, checkmate is what chess is all about, is it not?
>
>Any program that cannot find mate in a composed problem really has serious
>"problems"...I think.
>
>Just ask John Merlino....:-)
>
>What makes ChessMaster so great is this ability to find mates in such a short
>time...even in a composed problem.
>
>regards!
>
>Art

Composed problems do not represent any significant difference for computers.
Usually, these kinds of problems require the human to think differently than
he/she normally would in order to solve it. A chess engine just searches, either
way....

For this one, Chessmaster 9000 announces Mate in 10 in 24 seconds on a PIII-600:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	5.32	1485		1.Bd1 Nf3 2.Bb3+ Kf5 3.Bc2+ Ke6
0:00	1/3	6.14	1612		1.Be4 Nf3 2.Bd5+ Kf5 3.Nxf3 gxf3
					4.Bxf3
0:00	1/4	6.30	4164		1.Be4 Nf3 2.Nxf3 gxf3 3.Bxf3 Kf5
					4.Bh1
0:00	1/4	7.65	7392		1.Bb3+ Kf5 2.Kd6 h1=Q 3.Be6+ Ke4
					4.Bd5+ Kf5 5.Bxh1 Ne2
0:00	1/5	7.65	13826		1.Bb3+ Kf5 2.Kd6 h1=Q 3.Be6+ Ke4
					4.Bd5+ Kf5 5.Bxh1 Ne2
0:01	2/6	6.85	71630		1.Bb3+ Kf5 2.Kd6 h1=Q 3.Be6+ Ke4
					4.Bd5+ Kf5 5.Bxh1 Nh3 6.Bc6 Nxf4
0:01	2/6	7.82	78134		1.Ba4 Kf5 2.Kd6 Ke4 3.Nxg4 Nh3
					4.Bc2+ Kd4 5.Nxh2 Nxf2
0:01	3/7	7.78	118361		1.Ba4 Kf5 2.Bd7+ Ke4 3.Nxg4 Ne2
					4.f3+ Kxf3 5.Nxh2+ Ke4 6.f5
0:03	4/8	8.02	294219		1.Ba4 Kf5 2.Bd7+ Ke4 3.Nxg4 Ne2
					4.f3+ Kxf3 5.Nxh2+ Kg3 6.Nf1+ Kf2
					7.Nd2 Ke3
0:09	5/9	7.96	934440		1.Ba4 Kf5 2.Bd7+ Ke4 3.Nxg4 Nh3
					4.f3+ Kxf3 5.Nxh2+ Kg2 6.Bxh3+
					Kxh3 7.Nf1 Kg4 8.Ne3+ Kh5
0:24	6/10	Mate10	2736684		1.Ba4 Kf5 2.Bd7+ Ke4 3.Be8 Kf5
					4.Bg6+ Ke6 5.Bh5 Kf5 6.Bxg4+ Ke4
					7.Bd1 Kf5 8.Bc2+ Ke6 9.f5+ Kxe5
					10.f4#

jm



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