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Subject: Re: Rebel's plus sign during analysis

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 03:48:06 08/03/98

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On August 03, 1998 at 03:14:03, Ernst A. Heinz wrote:

>On August 03, 1998 at 02:21:12, Amir Ban wrote:
>>
>>I always accept the fail-high move immediately.
>>
>>There are parameters that you are important that you don't mention: What size
>>window is used during normal search ? If it's zero-width, or very small, then
>>fail-high doesn't mean it's much better than the previous best, and you can take
>>the new move or leave it. If you use a 0.3-0.5 window, as I do, fail-high means
>>it's clearly better than the previous, even it later fails low.
>>
>>Also, what window do you use on the re-search that fails low ? If you use
>>new-alpha+1 to infinity, then maybe the fail-low happened because the value is
>>exactly new-alpha. If you use a window of old-alpha to infinity, then a >fail-low
>>indeed makes the move suspicious.
>>
>>Amir
>
>Good point, Amir!
>
>Actually, I do not recall to having encountered the fail-low after fail-high
>behaviour as long as the research is done with the *old alpha*, i.e. the
>same that was used when the fail-high occured.
>
>Otherwise, this nasty fail-low after fail-high behaviour unfortunately
>seems to occur quite frequently.
>
>=Ernst=

This is a known problem will null-movers...  if you use the old alpha, you may
not get the fail low, but you will get a score lower than the previous best
move, which might be just as ugly...



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