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Subject: Re: Is this a Rebel/Tiger/Gandalf Boycott?

Author: Tony Werten

Date: 08:11:11 06/22/02

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On June 22, 2002 at 04:36:07, Harald Faber wrote:

>On June 21, 2002 at 13:47:02, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>>Still an ignorant dreamer. Those are not just 3 programs, they are co-favourites
>>>with chances to win.
>>
>>For me are all programs important.
>
>
>I know.
>
>
>>So for me is not very important which programs are playing, more important is
>>that many programs playing and the programmers have fun.
>
>
>OK, then let us call the wch "fun tournament"?
>The definition of World Championship is different.
>
>
>>>Even if they'd participate, they'd have no chance to WIN and I would cut my hair
>>>1mm long in case one of them would win.
>>
>>Big Nonsens !
>>Do you know Chess Wizard, Nightmare or other programs ?
>>
>>A program which are playing with ~ 2.500 - 2.550 (if Fritz is playing with
>>2.650) have "normaly" a chance to win of ~ 20%. A good exemple are my 20
>>tournaments "Amateurs vs. Professionals". Goliath won 2 of 20 tournaments.
>
>
>Cool, eh? How many World Championships did they play? And how did they finish?

They won last years worldchampionship speedchess. They were amateurs then.
Shredder was an amateur when winning the wch. Amateur Ferret finished shared
first place 2 (?) years ago.

It's a lot harder to pick the winners before a tournement.

Tony

>
>
>>>Tiger, yes. ;-)
>>You are a Tiger fan?
>
>
>Open secret. :)
>
>
>>>Seriously: Imagine a soccer wch without Argentina, Brasil, England, Ireland,
>>>Italy, Cameroon. Does not mater because there are dozens of other countries
>>>playing for the title?? You must be joking.
>>
>>Other countrys can also playing good football.
>>Like "Mali", "Ghana" ... Mali is very very strong.
>
>
>Yes, so strong that it wasn't able to qualify for the wch...
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>>Now the German "Banana team" is under the last 4 teams, I cann't know this.
>>Today the American player are clear better and we see the typical German
>>football :-(
>>
>>But the American players are the moral winner of this game not the German team.
>>
>>Best
>>Frank
>
>
>Who cares?
>May I quote our ex-cancellor Helmut Kohl: "Entscheidend ist, was hinten
>rauskommt." (It is the result that counts)
>There are MANY countries, like Italy, like Argentina e.g., who would CELEBRATE
>reaching the 1/2 final, no matter HOW.
>Only the Germans, or at least the German media, have problems with this
>attitude. Winning is not enough, winning superior is important. Bullshit. I (and
>many others too) prefer reaching the smei-final instead of dropping out of the
>tournament but having played attractively.
>"Moral winner", that is a loser's excuse.



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