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Subject: Re: Rebel's plus sign during analysis

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 05:49:22 08/03/98

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>>Like to add that I often have noticed such a "false-fail-high" is rewarded
>>in the next iteration after all. It has puzzled me for years. A few years
>>ago I made a test-version that always took a "fail-high" as best move,
>>false or not. Results were not better but also not worse.

>>Similar experiences?

>>- Ed -


>I always accept the fail-high move immediately.

>There are parameters that you are important that you don't mention: What size
>window is used during normal search ? If it's zero-width, or very small, then
>fail-high doesn't mean it's much better than the previous best, and you can
>take the new move or leave it. If you use a 0.3-0.5 window, as I do, fail-high
>means it's clearly better than the previous, even it later fails low.

Since years I use aspiration search with a 0.50 window. In case of a "fail-low"
I set alpha to "low-value". In case of a "fail high" I do:
- set alpha and beta to "low-value" in case of the first move of the iteration.
- set alpha to "low-value" in all other cases.
In case of no "fail-high" or "fail-low" I create a new beta window (alpha+0.15)

- Ed -


>Also, what window do you use on the re-search that fails low ? If you use
>new-alpha+1 to infinity, then maybe the fail-low happened because the value is
>exactly new-alpha. If you use a window of old-alpha to infinity, then a
>fail-low indeed makes the move suspicious.

>Amir



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