Author: martin fierz
Date: 22:01:21 06/24/02
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On June 24, 2002 at 21:21:22, stuart taylor wrote: >On June 24, 2002 at 17:31:47, Terry Ripple wrote: > >>On June 24, 2002 at 16:09:44, martin fierz wrote: >> >>>On June 24, 2002 at 11:24:37, stuart taylor wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>=============================== >>>>> >>>>>[d]r1b5/p2k1r1p/3P2pP/1ppR4/2P2p2/2P5/P1B4P/4R1K1 w - - bm Bxg6; >>>>>Rebel Century 4 : 38 seconds (11 ply) >>>>>Rebel XP beta 1.01 : 21 seconds (11 ply) >>>>> >>>> >>>>I like this position quite alot, because it's so easy (I mean tangible) for a >>>>reasonably intelligent human to see clearly. >>>>This is an example of a position which I always wanted to know if anyone of >>>>2200 elo would ever miss. >>> >>>sure, i (2200) can well imagine missing that in a game. if you tell me white to >>>move and win, i will probably find it easily. but if somehow my tactical >>>instinct doesn't tell me i should look for something, i could miss this >>>combination - like lots of others... i have seen better players miss easier >>>combinations than this! doesn't happen a lot, but it does happen. >>> >>>aloha >>> martin >>------------ >>Your exactly correct! It's much easier to find a combination to a problem when >>you are told there is a winning move in a particular position, but the real test >>is if you will see the combination in a real game of chess! Look at how many >>times Grandmasters miss a better move than what they made or even a winning move >>that they missed. In an over the board game you can't be always searching for >>deep complex combinations on each and every move or you will certainly lose on >>time, and so with experience you get a certain feel that there is possibly a >>combination when the pieces are positioned in a particular pattern and then you >>spend some extra time on this position. >> >>Regards, >> Terry >Well probably there are many things which hardly any much weaker player would >ever miss, and I would often miss, but this I just can't imagine ever missing in >a 30 min/game if there is atleast 10 minutes left on the clock. It is exactly my >mentality to see this. well, i don't know what your rating is, but, regardless of that, i can't imagine that you would always see such stuff (no offense intended!). in my own failures to see simple tactics i have found some patterns. for example, i often fall into a deep think in a position, and calculate a long variation. then, i play it out rather fast. i try to think again after my opponent has moved, but hey, i already calculated it and if i only have 10 minutes left on the clock for the whole game, i might feel pressed to move fast. so i play the move i had calculated 3 moves before, and suddenly see that there was something else... another typical mistake is that you see a good variation and stop looking for more. in your example, i could imagine sitting at the board and thinking: [d]r1b5/p2k1r1p/3P2pP/1ppR4/2P2p2/2P5/P1B4P/4R1K1 w - - bm Bxg6; hmm, this is looking good... do i have a safe continuation? lets see 1.Re7+ Rxe7 2.de7 Kxe7 3.Rxc5 (menacing cb5 with a comfortable advantage), so bc4 4.Rc7+, now if K moves 5.Rxh7, so 4...Bd7 instead 5. Ba4 Rd8 6. Rxa7, hmm, black might free himself with Ke6. so back to 4. Rxc4, that would menace Rxf4 and Rc7+, ok, so i'm just a pawn up. hey, only ten minutes left, but i get an ending with a pawn more - let's do it. BTW, another continuation you might look at in that position is 1. Bd1 with the menace Bg4+. that looks very dangerous for black too... aloha martin
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