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Subject: Re: A Unix question. (Slightly off-topic)

Author: Keith Evans

Date: 09:37:32 06/25/02

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On June 24, 2002 at 22:04:54, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 24, 2002 at 20:27:20, Keith Evans wrote:
>
>>On June 24, 2002 at 20:13:16, Slater Wold wrote:
>>
>>>A ran into a problem today with a system running SCO 5.0.5m.  I can not figure
>>>it out, and it's driving me nuts.  (Yes, I have looked on the 'Net, I can't find
>>>anything.)
>>>
>>>I logon as root, and I go into "/programs" and type "ls" I see a list of files.
>>>They are owned by several different users, with several different permissions,
>>>types, sizes, etc.  I chmod *everything* 777.  (From root, I type, "chmod -R 777
>>>programs".)
>>>
>>>Then I logon as another user, slate, and go into that same exact directory
>>>"/programs" and type "ls".  It gives me a list of *SOME* of the files.  (About
>>>70%.)  If I type "ls <anything>*" it will tell me "no such file or directory".
>>>
>>>Basically, there are a handful of files, that are virtually "hidden" to all
>>>other users except root.  Even after chmod'ing everything 777.
>>>
>>>
>>>Any ideas?
>>>
>>>I appreciate any response.
>>
>>
>>Any chance that file versioning is enabled? Maybe those are deleted files?
>
>
>Not in unix that I know of.  ls -l shows _all_ files.  There are no "deleted"
>files in unix...

Sigh... I have to admit that this was a WAG (wild ass guess), but did you read
the part of my message where I asked about "file versioning" under SCO Unix?

Here's a quote that ties this to file visibility:

"On traditional UNIX systems, once you have deleted a file, you cannot retrieve
it, other than by searching through any existing backup tapes. The SCO
OpenServer system undelete command makes this process much easier on versioned
files."
...
"NOTE: File versions created in this way will always be visible, independently
of the value of SHOWVERSIONS. However, when the filesystem is mounted with
versioning enabled, file versions created using undelete -v will not be
visible."



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