Author: Uri Blass
Date: 15:30:03 06/25/02
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On June 25, 2002 at 18:12:12, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote: >On June 25, 2002 at 17:10:05, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On June 24, 2002 at 19:09:05, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On June 23, 2002 at 02:06:25, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>i do not know in which world you live if you guess you >>>can score points with black after 1.e4,f5. This is complete >>>nonsense of course. Also the idea you would get a draw with 1.d3,e5 with >>>white is complete nonsense of course. Instead of advantage you have >>>disadvadvantage soon. with 1.e4,f5 you score 0% of course with black. >>> >> >> >>I don't agree here. I will be happy to search thru my game archive to find >>games Crafty has won vs other computers with the Latvian black side. It isn't >>a horrible opening to play against a materialistic computer. The best lines for >>white give the pawn back at the right time. Computers generally won't. Would >>it win more than it loses with that opening? Unknown. But it definitely >>would not lose every game. We could run a 10 game match on ICC to see, as my >>book learning would provide the variety within the various Latvian lines... >> > >You would never get into Latvian (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5) here since white play 2.exf5 >and you can't get in e5 without fxe6. >But I guess if black study this he could manage something. I found even a name >for it, Fred. >If both side is out of book here I would guess it should be near 100% score for >white if the strength between the players isn't too big. > >Odd Gunnar You are clearly wrong here and movei betaed genesis1.06 in one of it's games with 1.e4 f5 with black and I believe that it also beated or drew against other strong opponents with this line but I am not sure at this moment and I will look at it's games later. It also has not bad results against other good engines and I remember now that it beated list with 1.e4 b5 It also beated the public version by 1.e4 h5 2.Be2 e5(sacrificing a pawn for developement). It is possible that the result at slower time control may be different but I will be surprised if I see some result of near 100%. A pawn advantage does not give something near 100% in comp-comp games between equal opponents. Uri
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