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Subject: Re: [Long] SSDF Hiarcs 8.0 A1200 - Junior 7.0 K6 Ended: 18-22

Author: Ron Langeveld

Date: 15:40:59 06/25/02

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On June 25, 2002 at 16:48:08, George Sobala wrote:

>On June 25, 2002 at 15:08:08, Ron Langeveld wrote:
>
>
>>I agree. The available tournament book is a major embarrassment, as I have
>>stated before on this podium. I have generated my own book for Hiarcs 8 with
>>2400+ games and imported a selection of recent 2550+ games to establish the
>>tournament moves. This book is still being tested, but after more than 2000
>>games Hiarcs is allmost on par with Fritz 7 and Frit7.ctg (trailing less than 30 elo points).
>
>To ilustrate this "opening book effect": I am in the middle of a 12-round round
>robin between Hiarcs8, Fritz7, Shredder Paderborn and CMFun (CM8000 variant),
>30/0 on a K6/450 but I am using Nunn2 opening positions (alternate colours)
>rather than opening books (starting from number 10). In other words in round one
>each program plays every other program from the same starting position, then in
>round 2 the same positions with colours reversed. Round 3 moves on to a new
>position etc etc.
>
>Current Score:
>
>Hiarcs8   16/23
>CMFun     12/23
>Shredder6  9/23
>Fritz7     9/23
>
>* Hiarcs8 6.5-1.5 Fritz7 in their mini-match.

This is no surprise to me :)

>
>* Fritz7 is demolishing Shredder but is losing badly to CMFun.

It is my believe that one of Chessbase's major strengths with regard to
releasing new engines/books is the thourough testing. They have the resources to
give a new engine a crashproof testdrive of engine matches to track any glitches
in the engine/book combination. I am talking about more than a handful of engine
matches running simultaneously on several PC's starting at least 2 months before
the release of the engine. Add a considerable effort and resources available to
make the necessary adjustments to engine and book, et voila.

As far as Shredder 6 is concerned: currently CB's main priority is Fritz,
whether it is 7 or 9 or 10. Stephan MK probably hasn't received an equal
treatment, because I also get the distinct impression that Fritz 7 performs
disproportionately well against S6. Remember that the actual release date does
not reflect the fact that they were able to test S6 long before F7 got out.

>
>I am astonished by Fritz7's (7.0.0.8) poor performance but can't identify any
>fault in the settings. Indeed, CMFun is at a disadvantage because the others are
>using 3/4/some 5 tablebases.

CM8000 probably is not thrown in the prerelease test-pit of Fritz 7, which could
explain this result. CM8000 may be fine, but I doubt whether it is able to keep
up this performance over time.



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