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Subject: Re: OT: Affordable new 64-bit Power4 boxen from IBM

Author: Eugene Nalimov

Date: 16:10:25 06/25/02

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On June 25, 2002 at 17:28:48, J. Wesley Cleveland wrote:

>On June 25, 2002 at 17:12:31, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 25, 2002 at 07:54:35, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>
>>>On June 25, 2002 at 05:09:04, Adam Oellermann wrote:
>>>
>>>...
>>>>As I understand it, the Power4 blows the doors off Itanium2 for integer
>>>>performance. So a dual for approx $20000 and a quad for approx $30000 would
>>>>represent an *immense* amount of chess for your money. Me, I'd love to see
>>>>Crafty on one of these guys clean up ICC... Of course, while it's dreamtime, IBM
>>>>have 32-way boxes with 1.4GHz Power4 CPUs
>>>>
>>>>Cheers
>>>>Adam
>>>
>>>Bob, would you compare the speed of such computer and the one who run Cray
>>>Blitz, please ?
>>
>>
>>I don't know much about the power4 speeds yet.  The Cray T932 is very fast,
>>but it gets much of its speed from vector processing, which is something we
>>spent a _lot_ of time on in Cray Blitz.  Crafty on a T932 is not impressively
>>fast although it is not slow.
>>
>>If the PPC4 is faster than itanium2, then it will be very fast indeed, since
>>a 1Ghz I2 seems to run near 1.5M nodes per second for Crafty...
>
>A single processor PPC4 gets a spec2000 rating of 842 on crafty. Not bad ;)
>http://www.spec.org/osg/cpu2000/results/res2002q2/cpu2000-20020422-01307.html

You are wrong. That's not single-CPU Power4. That's multi-CPU Power4, with only
one CPU running benchmarks. But that CPU uses L3 cache of *all* the CPUs. Web
page you mentioned clearly says "128Mb of L3", so Crafty run out of the cache,
not from memory.

Take a look at
http://commerce.www.ibm.com/content/home/shop_ShopIBM/en_US/eServer/pSeries/entry/6306C4.html,
and notice how much L3 cache single- and dual-CPU systems have.

Thanks,
Eugene



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