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Subject: Re: Additional rules for wmccc

Author: J. Wesley Cleveland

Date: 13:46:57 06/26/02

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On June 25, 2002 at 20:23:31, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 25, 2002 at 18:12:12, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:
>
>>On June 25, 2002 at 17:10:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On June 24, 2002 at 19:09:05, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 23, 2002 at 02:06:25, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>i do not know in which world you live if you guess you
>>>>can score points with black after 1.e4,f5. This is complete
>>>>nonsense of course. Also the idea you would get a draw with 1.d3,e5 with
>>>>white is complete nonsense of course. Instead of advantage you have
>>>>disadvadvantage soon. with 1.e4,f5 you score 0% of course with black.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't agree here.  I will be happy to search thru my game archive to find
>>>games Crafty has won vs other computers with the Latvian black side.  It isn't
>>>a horrible opening to play against a materialistic computer.  The best lines for
>>>white give the pawn back at the right time.  Computers generally won't.  Would
>>>it win more than it loses with that opening?  Unknown.  But it definitely
>>>would not lose every game.  We could run a 10 game match on ICC to see, as my
>>>book learning would provide the variety within the various Latvian lines...
>>>
>>
>>You would never get into Latvian (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5) here since white play 2.exf5
>>and you can't get in e5 without fxe6.
>>But I guess if black study this he could manage something. I found even a name
>>for it, Fred.
>>If both side is out of book here I would guess it should be near 100% score for
>>white if the strength between the players isn't too big.
>>
>>Odd Gunnar
>
>You are probably correct.  I was really thinking of e4 e5 Nf3 f5 obviously.
>I don't think the Latvian is particularly good for black, but I used it a lot
>in human events and the surprise value is very good.  White had better know the
>main lines or he gets into trouble quickly.

I looked it up at chesslab and found 27 games:

White wins: 14
Black wins:  8
Draw:        5




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