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Subject: Re: UPDATE: This is a null-move problem...

Author: José Carlos

Date: 05:28:47 06/27/02

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On June 27, 2002 at 08:26:06, Andrew Williams wrote:

>On June 26, 2002 at 16:21:11, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>
>>On June 26, 2002 at 13:53:11, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>
>>>This is a null-move problem, caused by a stupid bug in PM. My null-move
>>>verification search was not working in this position. Now that I've fixed it,
>>>this particular error doesn't occur. I'm still interested in what others see
>>>here.
>>
>>For Yace, I cannot see much influence of null move here. I tried without null
>>moves at all, with default null move usage (R=2, including a verification
>>search) and with R=2 without any verification search. Each time I see a big fail
>>low at depth 9 for Kg3. Of course without null move, many more nodes are used.
>>Without verification search, somewhat less nodes are used than in the analysis
>>shown here.
>>
>
>This is interesting. For PM, if I make my null-moving less agressive (ie don't
>null move as much with few pieces, or don't use R=3 if there are few pieces), it
>sees the problem pretty much immediately. But with PM's default null move
>settings, it takes a *very* long time to see the problem. No matter what else I
>do, PM doesn't react until ply 12.
>
>Hmmmm.. perhaps 9 days before WCCC isn't the best time to radically re-think my
>null move strategy!!
>
>Thanks for your response.
>
>Andrew

  Don't know if this can help: Averno needs 11 plies to fail low with default
null-move (R=3/2) and 10 without null move. I didn't test other configurations.

  José C.



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