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Subject: Re: King and pawn game tuner for your program

Author: John Merlino

Date: 11:53:55 06/27/02

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On June 27, 2002 at 13:38:32, Ferdinand S. Mosca wrote:

>
>The king and pawn game is a very interesting exercise to program, is it
>difficult to perfect this ending?.
>
>How long will it take your favorite programs to see that 36. h5 is good for
>black.
>[D]8/k6p/8/2P2p2/2P1p3/7K/1P3P2/8 b - - 0 35
>sample program analysis on Athlon xp 1600+, 64MB hash
>Analysis by Gromit 3.8.2:
>
>36...h5 37.Kg3 Kb7 38.b3 Kc7 39.b4 Kc6 40.f4 Kc7 41.b5 Kb7 42.c6+ Kb6 43.c5+ Kc7
>44.Kh3 e3 45.Kg3 h4+ 46.Kg2 h3+ 47.Kf3
>  ±  (1.09)   Depth: 18   00:10:55
>36...h5
>  ±  (1.09)   Depth: 19   00:10:55
>36...h5
>  ±  (1.09)   Depth: 19   00:11:09
>
>more than 11 min, and yet the score still favors white.
>
>
>Analysis by Green Light Chess 2.18:
>
>36...h5 37.Kg3 Kb7 38.b4 Kc6 39.f4 Kc7 40.b5 Kd7 41.c6+ Kd6 42.Kf2 h4 43.Kg2 e3
>44.Kf3 h3 45.Kxe3 h2 46.c5+ Kxc5 47.c7 Kxb5 48.c8Q h1Q 49.Qxf5+
>  ±  (1.27)   Depth: 19   00:03:16  154355kN
>36...h5 37.Kg3 Kb7 38.b4 Kc6 39.f4 Kc7 40.b5 Kd7 41.c6+ Kd6 42.Kf2 h4 43.Kg2 e3
>44.Kf3 h3 45.Kxe3 h2 46.c5+ Kxc5 47.c7 Kxb5 48.c8Q h1Q 49.Qxf5+
>  ±  (1.27)   Depth: 19   00:03:17  155502kN
>
>still favors white.
>
>Regards,
>Dinan

Chessmaster 9000 chooses h5 after three seconds, but still believes White is
winning after several minutes:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	2/6	2.17	2478		1...Kb7 2.b4 Kc6 3.Kh4 f4 4.Kg4
0:00	3/7	3.10	6394		1...Kb7 2.Kg3 Kc6 3.b4 Kd7 4.Kf4
					Ke6 5.b5
0:00	4/8	2.99	13077		1...Kb7 2.Kg3 Kc6 3.b4 Kd7 4.Kf4
					Ke6 5.b5 h5
0:00	5/9	3.19	19013		1...Kb7 2.Kg3 Kc6 3.b4 Kd7 4.b5
					Ke6 5.c6 Kd6 6.Kf4
0:00	6/10	2.14	43284		1...Kb7 2.b4 h5 3.b5 f4 4.c6+ Kc7
					5.Kg2 e3 6.Kf3 exf2 7.Kxf2 h4 8.c5
0:01	7/11	2.22	72473		1...Kb7 2.Kh4 Kc6 3.Kg5 Kxc5 4.b3
					f4 5.Kxf4 Kd4 6.c5 Kxc5 7.Kxe4
0:01	8/12	2.89	133419		1...Kb7 2.Kh4 f4 3.Kg4 e3 4.fxe3
					fxe3 5.Kf3 h5 6.Kxe3 h4 7.b4 h3
0:03	8/12	1.71	316053		1...h5 2.Kg3 Kb7 3.b4 Kc6 4.f4
					exf3ep 5.Kxf3 h4 6.Kf2 f4 7.Kg2
0:05	9/13	1.91	505001		1...h5 2.Kg3 Kb7 3.b4 Kc6 4.f4
					exf3ep 5.Kxf3 h4 6.Kf4 Kc7 7.b5 h3
0:14	10/14	1.87	1210094		1...h5 2.Kg3 Kb7 3.b4 Kc6 4.f4
					exf3ep 5.Kxf3 h4 6.Kf4 Kc7 7.b5
					h3 8.b6+ Kb7
0:30	11/15	2.19	2537703		1...h5 2.Kg3 Kb7 3.b4 Kc6 4.f4
					exf3ep 5.Kxf3 h4 6.Kf4 Kc7 7.b5
					Kb7 8.c6+ Kc7 9.c5 h3
1:37	12/16	1.94	7960434		1...h5 2.Kg3 Kb7 3.b4 Kc6 4.f4
					Kc7 5.b5 Kb7 6.c6+ Kb6 7.Kg2 h4
					8.Kf2 h3 9.Kg3 e3
4:14	13/17	1.93	20726457	1...h5 2.Kg3 Kb7 3.b4 Kc6 4.f4
					Kc7 5.b5 Kb7 6.c6+ Kb6 7.Kf2 h4
					8.c5+ Kc7 9.Kg2 e3 10.Kf3 h3
15:01	14/18	1.61	71024288	1...h5 2.Kg3 Kb7 3.b4 Kc6 4.f4
					Kc7 5.b5 Kb7 6.c6+ Kb6 7.Kh4 Kc7
					8.Kh3 e3 9.Kg2 h4 10.Kf1 h3 11.c5

How can Black possibly win (or even draw) this game?

jm



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