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Subject: Re: My take on what happened.... Spam or no spam, that is the question.

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 13:05:37 06/28/02

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On June 28, 2002 at 15:47:54, Steven Schwartz wrote:

>On June 28, 2002 at 15:09:20, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>Hi Sune,
>>
>>thanks, maybe it's helps the most readers here where discuss about my point and
>>the explanation of "Spam"!
>>
>>But I have learned:
>>I will never go in a football stadion of Real Madrid with my Wattenscheid 09 (my
>>favorite German club) dress. I will go in this stadion with a dress of Real
>>Madrid and all people are happy.
>>
>>And for sure:
>>I go with a dress from Wattenscheid, sorry!
>>
>>The Members here understand me now better, I am sure!
>>I hope the discuss ended now compare to my time here!
>>Best
>>Frank
>
>
>I do not know Frank very well, but from our couple of emails
>in the last day, I have come to the belief that he was not intending
>to hurt ICD by bringing up the Spam issue. It is not necessary
>for anyone to demean him for his opinions. Everyone is entitled
>to an opinion.

I read Frank's critic in German. There he made use of the wording "impudence"
for the misuse of the member's list of CCC/ICD for PR emails. I think this is
quite clear.

Rolf Tueschen


>
>I think what it comes down to is a cultural difference. There is
>also the language barrier for Frank since English is not
>his strong point.
>
>But to set the record straight...
>We have sent out 5 emails to CCC members in the last 30 months. For
>those who are math challenged, that's one every 6 months) If you
>received more than 5 emails from us since January 1, 2000, then you
>are also on one of our other mailing lists (probably as a customer
>or guestbook signer). Each email had an unsubscribe link, and every
>request to unsubscribe was honored (at least as far as we can tell
>since it is automated). We also set up a link here and both emailed
>all members and posted on the board that you could opt off the
>emailing list by just clicking "No".
>
>I have every intention of doing future mailings to this group. So,
>if you would rather not hear about new product or special sales or
>promotions of one kind or another, PLEASE use this link and get
>yourself off the list by clicking next to no under "Change E-mail Status" :
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/edit.html
>
>If you opt off the list, our mailings will be like the proverbial tree
>falling in China, and if you do not opt off (or are so intrigued
>by this whole thread that you reverse and opt on) you can expect to
>get an infrequent emailing whenever we feel we have something special
>to offer.
>
>We can debate Spam till the cows come home, but my company is just
>not like all the other companies that could not care less about customers
>as long as they can get them to spend money. I do not believe the saying
>that "negative  publicity is better than no publicity at all". I do not
>want to send any emails to anyone who does not want to receive them. But
>unless I send one and the customer says "remove", I do not know that.
>
>But no need to yell at Frank. It's an interesting dilemma, and
>reasoned discussion is far better than throwing insults.
>
>Steve (ICD/Your Move Chess & Games)



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