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Subject: Re: How does Maastricht Diep compare to Deep Blue?

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 10:25:01 06/29/02

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On June 29, 2002 at 12:30:05, Roger D Davis wrote:

>I see Diep is running on some incredible hardware for Maastricht. How does
>today's Diep compare against Deep Blue?

it will be answerred. Note that the last 13 years not a single supercomputer
won a world title, including deep blue (which never won under
the name deep blue a world title. Instead it lost in hong kong and drew
a few horrible games too).

Comparing 2002 software with Deep Blue is of course insane in itself,
because the progress, especially algorithmically and weakest chain
from a program has progressed a lot. For example Deep Blue had 4000
hand given in bookmoves by a grandmaster, the rest was a random book.

Any serious program of today has more like 100000+ hand tuned bookmoves,
majority of them top grandmaster moves which have proven themselves, as
well as refutations of pretty recent lines.

I would be pretty amazed if in the top10 of the world champs a program
would end which has a hand tuned openingsbook of 4000 moves or less
(of course using after that a database is something else).

Remember a very old pc, P90 could beat deep blue in 1995. Imagine what
happens nowadays. The 1997 version was not so much faster in nodes a
second than the 1995 version, especially when taking their branching
factor into account.

The machine where the pc programs join at, at the
wcc will be if i assume correct a dual k7, as no other PC is that
fast at the moment. Despite rumours, of course dual K7 is a lightyear
faster than a dual P4.

Because *everyone* knows the name deep blue, this comparision will be made of
course clearly.

Best regards,
Vincent



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