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Subject: Re: Normal Distribution & Computer Chess

Author: Robert Henry Durrett

Date: 13:07:37 06/30/02

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On June 30, 2002 at 12:54:49, Adam Oellermann wrote:

>On June 29, 2002 at 10:36:42, Robert Henry Durrett wrote:
>
>>On June 29, 2002 at 02:43:02, Adam Oellermann wrote:
>>
>>>On June 28, 2002 at 19:29:38, Robert Henry Durrett wrote:
>>>
>>>>DEFINITION:  Apologetic SPAM:
>>>>
>>>>All discussions of spam  [a canned version of ham?] and a variety of associated
>>>>apologies.
>>>>
>>>>_ _ _ _ _ _
>>>>
>>>>These fall into a normal distribution where the independent variable is time.
>>>>
>>>>Or is it a different statistical distribution?  An "abnormal" distribution?
>>>>
>>>>Are there any spamish computer chess statisticians here?
>>>>
>>>>:) :(     :) :(     :) :(     :) :(     :) :(     :) :(
>>>>
>>>>_ _ _ _ _ _
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Bob D.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>P.S.  Back on the topic of computer chess:
>>>>
>>>>I am curious.  What is the next step up from a PC for chess engines?
>>>>
>>>>Are we talking $15,000?  $30,000?  Or what?  Surely not a super computer!
>>>>
>>>>How much chess for the buck?  Is the PC the ultimate?
>>>
>>>Not even close. There was a brief discussion here about an IBM system running
>>>dual Power4s for about $15000 which would, judgine from benchmarks, have a
>>>significant advantage over PCs. Another $11000-odd allows you to upgrade it to 8
>>>Power4 CPUs; together with plenty of cache and lots of RAM, this would leave a
>>>PC without chances. Of course, you can keep going if you have money - there are
>>>32-way versions etc... and if you have *real* money, you could start thinking
>>>about supercomputers, but would probably have to develop a "special" chess
>>>engine to take full advantage.
>>
>>I want to see some dollar figures here.  As soon as I get rich, I plan to
>>purchase one.
>>
>>Bob D.
>
>Those were dollar figures for the entry-level p690 machines, which run AIX
>(probably Linux as well within 6 months). Once you're rich, I'm sure your
>friendly IBM salesman would be happy to talk you through some of the bigger
>boxes :)
>
>However, it may be just as well if you're not planning on getting rich soon.
>Competition from the lower end of the market (ie fast 32-bit Intel/AMD stuff)
>and imminent, serious competition from the likes of Itanium and Opteron is
>forcing the IBMs and the Suns of the world to do some serious engineering.
>Expect prices to fall on multiple-core-per-die architectures with silly amounts
>of on-die cache. I think the next few years will be interesting, especially if
>your spare room has industrial-strength airconditioning and raised tiles!

Unfortunately, I can't wait "a few years."  I gotta have it soon, or forget it!

Bob D.



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